Your feelings on Perez as DNC Chair, Ellison as Deputy Chair?

[Blue3]

Your feelings on Perez as DNC Chair, Ellison as Deputy Chair?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Democrat - Burn'em all!

[GoTfan]

Awful. The last attempt of Obama to retain as much control as possible. Ellison will be marginalised by the establishment.

[jojoju1998]

Democrat - Burn'em all!

Wait. Wait. You would rather have a Neoliberal Fascist as America's President who isn't willing to change than a somewhat moderate but who is willing to change ?

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

Option 2 (and due to my being a minor, option 22. Voted for the former). I would have preferred vice-versa, but it could be worse.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Democrat - Burn'em all!

Wait. Wait. You would rather have a Neoliberal Fascist as America's President who isn't willing to change than a somewhat moderate but who is willing to change ?

For s sake Perez isn't a moderate. Stop feeding their alternative reality narrative.

[GoTfan]

Democrat - Burn'em all!

Wait. Wait. You would rather have a Neoliberal Fascist as America's President who isn't willing to change than a somewhat moderate but who is willing to change ?

In fairness, the pre-election DNC preferred Trump winning to Bernie winning.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

The tragedy of American politics right now is that the Democrats richly deserve to lose, and deserve it more by the day apparently, but the country doesn't deserve for the Republicans to win.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Democrat - Burn'em all!

Wait. Wait. You would rather have a Neoliberal Fascist as America's President who isn't willing to change than a somewhat moderate but who is willing to change ?

For s sake Perez isn't a moderate. Stop feeding their alternative reality narrative.

He's worse than a moderate. He's the Establishment.

[JerryArkansas]

Democrat - Burn'em all!

Wait. Wait. You would rather have a Neoliberal Fascist as America's President who isn't willing to change than a somewhat moderate but who is willing to change ?

For s sake Perez isn't a moderate. Stop feeding their alternative reality narrative.

He's worse than a moderate. He's the Establishment.

For s sake dude give it a rest.  Damn you are being a child right now.  Throwing a fit.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Awful. The last attempt of Obama to retain as much control as possible. Ellison will be marginalised by the establishment.

Remember how incompetent Obama was when it came to pick party leaders?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

For s sake dude give it a rest.  Damn you are being a child right now.  Throwing a fit.

Projecting much?

[Mr. Smith]

For now, Opt. 3.

[JerryArkansas]

For s sake dude give it a rest.  Damn you are being a child right now.  Throwing a fit.

Projecting much?

Am I the one who is throwing a fit over several threads?  No, that would be Antonio.  So please save me your "burns". 

[America Needs R'hllor]

Democrat - Burn'em all!

Wait. Wait. You would rather have a Neoliberal Fascist as America's President who isn't willing to change than a somewhat moderate but who is willing to change ?

For s sake Perez isn't a moderate. Stop feeding their alternative reality narrative.

He's worse than a moderate. He's the Establishment.

Please, this is just ridiculous anarchism. There's ALWAYS some sort of establishment.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Is it too much to ask neoliberal Democratic hacks to actually learn anything from their embarrassing defeat 3 months ago?

I'm not asking them to change their minds (it's not like Ellison was a socialist, after all) but just to stop thinking the party is their property.

[Green Line]

Is it too much to ask neoliberal Democratic hacks to actually learn anything from their embarrassing defeat 3 months ago?

Learn what?  She got more votes.  How many did Bernie get?

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Awful. The last attempt of Obama to retain as much control as possible. Ellison will be marginalised by the establishment.

Remember how incompetent Obama was when it came to pick party leaders?

I'd actually dispute this. If he had been more involved in party politics we wouldn't have had DWS and her ilk.

[jojoju1998]

Awful. The last attempt of Obama to retain as much control as possible. Ellison will be marginalised by the establishment.

Remember how incompetent Obama was when it came to pick party leaders?

That's because President Obama was a Political Outsider, He only had like 3 years as a Senator. He didn't develop Relationships with Congress. He was basically a Outsider President.

All of the most influential Presidents in our Lifetimes, such as Ronald Reagan and FDR had Governing Experience and knew how to build Coalitions that would last for a lifetime. And they were also both Governors.....

Which is why people like TD and I predict that the Next Progressive Majority President will be a Governor.....

Is it too much to ask neoliberal Democratic hacks to actually learn anything from their embarrassing defeat 3 months ago?

I'm not asking them to change their minds (it's not like Ellison was a socialist, after all) but just to stop thinking the party is their property.

Well at least no one got killed....

[Sumner 1868]

Is it too much to ask neoliberal Democratic hacks to actually learn anything from their embarrassing defeat 3 months ago?

I'm not asking them to change their minds (it's not like Ellison was a socialist, after all) but just to stop thinking the party is their property.

For the time being it is their property.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Is it too much to ask neoliberal Democratic hacks to actually learn anything from their embarrassing defeat 3 months ago?

I'm not asking them to change their minds (it's not like Ellison was a socialist, after all) but just to stop thinking the party is their property.

For the time being it is their property.

Well we need to change that and soon.

[GoTfan]

Is it too much to ask neoliberal Democratic hacks to actually learn anything from their embarrassing defeat 3 months ago?

I'm not asking them to change their minds (it's not like Ellison was a socialist, after all) but just to stop thinking the party is their property.

Yes it is too much to ask. Some of them voted for Perez just to spite Bernie supporters. Hell, you want to keep bleeding left-wing support to the Green Party, keep doing what you're doing.

[Maxwell]

teetering between dislike and tolerable. Better than DNC Chairman Jaime Harrison i suppose.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Is it too much to ask neoliberal Democratic hacks to actually learn anything from their embarrassing defeat 3 months ago?

Learn what?  She got more votes.  How many did Bernie get?

1. 3 months ago refeers to the general election, not primaries.
2. And it doesn't matter. Trump is President because Hillary blew a winnable race. I mean come on, man, she lost by a hair to somebody who committed every political sin there's in the book and was written off by almost everybody as unelectable.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Is it too much to ask neoliberal Democratic hacks to actually learn anything from their embarrassing defeat 3 months ago?

I'm not asking them to change their minds (it's not like Ellison was a socialist, after all) but just to stop thinking the party is their property.

But I ask you this- what do you want?
Do you just want people you consider allies to win, no matter what? That's not how democracy works. In a democracy, you need to get the most votes. If you want to win, you need to win. Win primaries, win conventions, win elections. In 2016, you didn't win. Because Hillary got more votes. As simple as that. In the Party Chair elections, you lost narrowly. Because Perez got more votes. What the hell is wrong with that? It's democracy.