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Oakvale
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« on: February 25, 2017, 07:46:03 PM »

I'm confused as to how the 2016 election involved Democrats "screwing over the base" or whatever as a premise.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2017, 07:58:18 PM »

This is not about the DNC Chair. It's never been about the DNC Chair.

What?  That is literally the only thing this is about...well...that and the fact that some folks are having a temper-tantrum because Teh EVILstablishmentz is mean Cry Cry  Apparently being a "progressive" these days means believing Donald Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom Perez Roll Eyes

Symbols matter in politics. Denying that means being utterly deluded. If the hacks that control the Democratic party aren't even willing to make a concession on this, that means they have decided they're going keep f**king over the base in every way possible for the years to come. They haven't learned a thing from 2016. That's the problem.

Explain how because they've actually been pretty fervent in opposing Trump so far.

Posturing about T***p isn't what will make Democrats win in 2020. To do that, they'll need to actually show that they understand the angers and care about the needs of the growing majority of Americans who get nothing out of the current economic system. They seem completely uninterested in that because it's more convenient to be the part of the upper middle-class who don't like T***p because he's uncool or something.

And the DNC Chair has nothing to do with any of that! It's basically a position that simply organizes fundraisers and does quick interviews on news shows.

Dean's 50-State strategy allowed Democrats to win supermajorities in 2008. DWS' disaster of a leadership contributed to record losses at every every level. Clearly it matters at least a bit.

But again, the main point isn't the DNC chair itself, it's the SIGNAL it gives. Why nobody seems to understand that?

The premise of HOWARD DEAN as an electoral genius is blatant nonsense and one of the most annoying Atlas myths. Democrats won all manner of seats in 2006 (and '08) because the incumbent administration was as popular as ebola among the electorate, not because Howard Dean had people hold signs at a farm in Idaho or whatever. In comparison, I have a hunch it was not legendary strategist Michael Steele's inspired leadership that lead to sweeping GOP gains in 2010.

I would make an exception for the simple fact that you need to recruit candidates in tough seats in the first place to allow for circumstances to provide such a wave but both Perez and Ellison campaigned on doing exactly that, so...

If you want to hyperventilate over semiotics that's your own business. Unhealthy and probably unhelpful, though.
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