Former CIA spokesman Bill Harlow confirms that Plame was, in fact, an undercover
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« on: July 27, 2005, 01:14:35 AM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/26/AR2005072602069_pf.html

Hey, you mindless Rove apoligists, what's the latest Republican talking points now? This directly contradicts the most recent line of argument. Give it up you stupid partisan hacks. If there was a Democrat 10% as curropt as Bush, I'd have left him for the wolves long ago. Let this er Bush go down in flames.
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2005, 11:43:48 AM »

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So Rove told Novak nothing more than Harlow did: both told Novak that Plame worked for the CIA.  Neither said in what capacity.  The difference is that Harlow knew that Plame was undercover.  Given the standard set in the law, this means that if Rove didn't know she was undercover, then Rove is innocent, but Harlow may be guilty.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2005, 11:47:38 AM »



Interesting point, Blue.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2005, 11:49:12 AM »

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So Rove told Novak nothing more than Harlow did: both told Novak that Plame worked for the CIA.  Neither said in what capacity.  The difference is that Harlow knew that Plame was undercover.  Given the standard set in the law, this means that if Rove didn't know she was undercover, then Rove is innocent, but Harlow may be guilty.

Quit moving the goalposts.  What happened to "the era of personal responsiblity"?
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2005, 11:53:16 AM »

did anyone hear about the california national guard being investigated for misconduct in iraq?
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2005, 11:57:46 AM »

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So Rove told Novak nothing more than Harlow did: both told Novak that Plame worked for the CIA.  Neither said in what capacity.  The difference is that Harlow knew that Plame was undercover.  Given the standard set in the law, this means that if Rove didn't know she was undercover, then Rove is innocent, but Harlow may be guilty.

Quit moving the goalposts.  What happened to "the era of personal responsiblity"?

Complete these sentences:

Rove's actions were different from Harlow's actions in that_________.

Rove's actions were illegal and Harlow's actions were legal because_______________.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2005, 12:01:31 PM »

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So Rove told Novak nothing more than Harlow did: both told Novak that Plame worked for the CIA.  Neither said in what capacity.  The difference is that Harlow knew that Plame was undercover.  Given the standard set in the law, this means that if Rove didn't know she was undercover, then Rove is innocent, but Harlow may be guilty.

Quit moving the goalposts.  What happened to "the era of personal responsiblity"?

Complete these sentences:

Rove's actions were different from Harlow's actions in that_________.

Rove's actions were illegal and Harlow's actions were legal because_______________.

Did you read what this says? It says that Plame was covert, directly contradicting all of the spin from you right-wing partisan hacks. Now you're trying to change the topic. Let your scum President go down in flames like he deserves. I would have abandoned a Democratic President with a tiny fraction of the corruption long ago.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2005, 12:09:59 PM »

did anyone hear about the california national guard being investigated for misconduct in iraq?

Yeah.  Yet a few more bad apples in the grove giving the military a bad name.  Just ads more fuel to the anti-war/anti-military crowd.
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2005, 01:23:09 PM »

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So Rove told Novak nothing more than Harlow did: both told Novak that Plame worked for the CIA.  Neither said in what capacity.  The difference is that Harlow knew that Plame was undercover.  Given the standard set in the law, this means that if Rove didn't know she was undercover, then Rove is innocent, but Harlow may be guilty.

Quit moving the goalposts.  What happened to "the era of personal responsiblity"?

Complete these sentences:

Rove's actions were different from Harlow's actions in that_________.

Rove's actions were illegal and Harlow's actions were legal because_______________.

Did you read what this says? It says that Plame was covert, directly contradicting all of the spin from you right-wing partisan hacks. Now you're trying to change the topic. Let your scum President go down in flames like he deserves. I would have abandoned a Democratic President with a tiny fraction of the corruption long ago.

No, the "spin" has been:
1. Rove didn't know Plame was covert.  That has not changed.
2. Rove didn't know the government was actively concealing Plame's identity.  That has not changed, nor is it clear that the government was concealing her identity.
3. Rove never said Plame was covert.  That has not changed.  In fact, Harlow has now set the standard for the illegality:
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Harlow confirmed to Novak that Plame worked for the CIA.  By Harlow's own admission, that disclosure does not reveal classified information.
4. Rove didn't give Novak Plame's name.  Note in the above quote that Harlow in fact green-lights Novak's discussion of Wilson's wife's role, so long as her name is not revealed.

So basically Harlow cleared Rove of any criminal act.
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2005, 05:18:24 PM »

Harlow is a town in Essex
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2005, 05:22:52 PM »

Here's a Harlow.
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