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« on: March 01, 2017, 04:27:25 PM »

How likely is it that Keith Ellison runs for Minnesota governor?

It looks like he's trying to climb his way up to something higher than representative what with his recent failed bid for DNC Chair, and neither Klobuchar nor Franken look like they're going anywhere unless one of them wins the nomination in 2020.

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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2017, 04:28:35 PM »

He'd face a crowded primary, probably, but he'd also face a tough general. If Franken vacates his seat in 2020, Mike McFadden would defeat Ellison, even if Trump loses Minnesota.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2017, 04:43:14 PM »

Ellison isn't going to challenge Coleman.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2017, 04:47:22 PM »

Ellison isn't going to challenge Coleman.

Norm Coleman? There's no indication that he is running for anything ever again.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2017, 05:10:09 PM »

Ellison isn't going to challenge Coleman.

Norm Coleman? There's no indication that he is running for anything ever again.
No, Chris. The already-announced-his-candidacy Mayor of Minneapolis.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2017, 05:45:15 PM »

Ellison isn't going to challenge Coleman.
Norm Coleman? There's no indication that he is running for anything ever again.
No, Chris. The already-announced-his-candidacy Mayor of Minneapolis.
... You're from Minnesota, right, Wulfric?
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2017, 07:18:08 PM »

He would absolutely tank in Greater MN as would Betty McCollum were she to run. DFL candidate should come from or at least have roots from outstate, Swanson was born & raised in the Iron range and Walz/Nolan are there.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2017, 07:53:33 PM »

I can't see Ellison as MN Governor, but MN is more liberal than lots of folks realize, and which was obscured by what I consider flukish returns from 2016.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2017, 08:10:16 PM »

I can't see Ellison as MN Governor, but MN is more liberal than lots of folks realize, and which was obscured by what I consider flukish returns from 2016.
I think its liberalism may have helped Trump (i.e., liberal Bernie backers who didn't vote for Hillary).
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2017, 09:03:22 PM »

I can't see Ellison as MN Governor, but MN is more liberal than lots of folks realize, and which was obscured by what I consider flukish returns from 2016.
I think its liberalism may have helped Trump (i.e., liberal Bernie backers who didn't vote for Hillary).

Along with rural resentment, it'd be easy to paint Ellison as a big city liberal who is out of touch with Greater MN.
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2017, 12:57:50 AM »

God forbid! Anybody, but Ellison. A sort of Michele Bachmann of the left...
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2017, 01:50:50 AM »

I can't see Ellison as MN Governor, but MN is more liberal than lots of folks realize, and which was obscured by what I consider flukish returns from 2016.
I think its liberalism may have helped Trump (i.e., liberal Bernie backers who didn't vote for Hillary).

Along with rural resentment, it'd be easy to paint Ellison as a big city liberal who is out of touch with Greater MN.

As the 2016 race showed us, Minnesota is one of the few states in which the Democrat can win by not doing much more than just running it up in the urban areas.  On top of that, it's hard for me to imagine Ellison doing worse than Clinton in rural MN; she was uniquely awful for the region.
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2017, 04:27:00 AM »

I can't see Ellison as MN Governor, but MN is more liberal than lots of folks realize, and which was obscured by what I consider flukish returns from 2016.
I think its liberalism may have helped Trump (i.e., liberal Bernie backers who didn't vote for Hillary).

Along with rural resentment, it'd be easy to paint Ellison as a big city liberal who is out of touch with Greater MN.

As the 2016 race showed us, Minnesota is one of the few states in which the Democrat can win by not doing much more than just running it up in the urban areas.  On top of that, it's hard for me to imagine Ellison doing worse than Clinton in rural MN; she was uniquely awful for the region.

NO! Clinton won, because she got a not-completely abysmal rural vote in MN, even if it swug heavily towards trump, if you want to lose, take that lesson though.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2017, 08:40:40 AM »

Ellison isn't going to challenge Coleman.
Norm Coleman? There's no indication that he is running for anything ever again.
No, Chris. The already-announced-his-candidacy Mayor of Minneapolis.
... You're from Minnesota, right, Wulfric?

He just made a mistake. I don't see what the big deal is.
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2017, 09:28:46 AM »

I don't think he'd win in the primary, but I think people are underestimating Minnesota's liberalism. We elected Paul Wellstone two times, remember?
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2017, 11:44:23 AM »

I don't think he'd win in the primary, but I think people are underestimating Minnesota's liberalism. We elected Paul Wellstone two times, remember?

Yeah, but long ago....
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2017, 11:53:29 AM »

I don't think he'd win in the primary, but I think people are underestimating Minnesota's liberalism. We elected Paul Wellstone two times, remember?
Yeah, but long ago....

C'mon.
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2017, 12:37:54 PM »

I can't see Ellison as MN Governor, but MN is more liberal than lots of folks realize, and which was obscured by what I consider flukish returns from 2016.
I think its liberalism may have helped Trump (i.e., liberal Bernie backers who didn't vote for Hillary).

Along with rural resentment, it'd be easy to paint Ellison as a big city liberal who is out of touch with Greater MN.

As the 2016 race showed us, Minnesota is one of the few states in which the Democrat can win by not doing much more than just running it up in the urban areas.  On top of that, it's hard for me to imagine Ellison doing worse than Clinton in rural MN; she was uniquely awful for the region.

NO! Clinton won, because she got a not-completely abysmal rural vote in MN, even if it swug heavily towards trump, if you want to lose, take that lesson though.

Winning big in the urban areas only got her 46% of the vote and Ds still have room to fall if they lose the Iron Range, she still won St. Louis & Carlton flip those further and she loses the state.
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2017, 12:57:22 PM »

Ellison could win but I think Ellison is better suited to be Speaker, Senator, or PRESIDENT.
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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2017, 01:26:50 PM »

The MN 8th elects Rick Nolan, a Sanders supporting progressive, while electing Trump by 20 points. Minnesota loves their progressive populists.
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2017, 02:06:08 PM »

The MN 8th elects Rick Nolan, a Sanders supporting progressive, while electing Trump by 20 points. Minnesota loves their progressive populists.

Yes, but Ellison seems to me more of "progressive elitist".....
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« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2017, 02:17:05 PM »

i don't know how you would pick Ellison as an "elitist" if you ever heard him speak.
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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2017, 02:47:02 PM »

i don't know how you would pick Ellison as an "elitist" if you ever heard him speak.

elitist = brown/black
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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2017, 04:05:01 AM »
« Edited: March 03, 2017, 04:08:00 AM by smoltchanov »

i don't know how you would pick Ellison as an "elitist" if you ever heard him speak.

elitist = brown/black

No. John Lewis is, surely, not elitist to me. Neither is Sanford Bishop. And this in only one state... Examples are plenty. But Ellison - excuse me...

P.S. There are lots of white politicians i heartily dislike. Why there can't be some black or brown?
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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2017, 04:32:48 AM »

No, please, let's not test Minnesota any further: we already saw how abstract racism on the national level nearly tipped it to the GOP in the presidential race between two white people. I can only imagine what might happen if you tried to ask the very white and not-racist people of Minnesota to vote for a brown to govern their own state!
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