What percentage of Black New Yorkers are of Caribbean origin?
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King of Kensington
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« on: March 03, 2017, 02:18:31 AM »

I would think around 40-50% are of Caribbean origin.  About 1/3 of NYC blacks are foreign born with the vast majority of immigrants coming from the Caribbean and if you include the second generation it must be over 40%. 
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2017, 02:57:31 AM »

Are we counting Dominicans as black or Hispanic?
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2017, 10:10:07 AM »

Are we counting Dominicans as black or Hispanic?

Potentially both
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2017, 08:58:00 PM »

Are we counting Dominicans as black or Hispanic?

Was thinking of the non-Hispanic Black population but good point.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2017, 02:25:05 AM »
« Edited: March 04, 2017, 02:28:40 AM by King of Kensington »

1/3 of Blacks in NYC are foreign born, and according to this source 84% of Black immigrants in New York were from the Caribbean.  Given the sizable second generation, it's got to be close to 50%.

http://blackdemographics.com/cities-2/new-york-nj-ny/

And according to this, 53% of Black New Yorkers in 1999 were of "native stock."  It's likely fallen below 50% since, so perhaps as many or more can trace their roots to the Caribbean as to the US South.

http://www.issuelab.org/resources/2675/2675.pdf

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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2017, 09:10:45 AM »

I would think around 40-50% are of Caribbean origin.  About 1/3 of NYC blacks are foreign born with the vast majority of immigrants coming from the Caribbean and if you include the second generation it must be over 40%. 
You might check ancestry data, though things like Trinidadian or Guyanese could be ambiguous. There is also a breakout for those of Hispanic origin, though again there could be ambiguity for Dominican or Puerto Rican.

To combine race and ancestry data, you'd probably have to use PUMS.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2017, 12:10:34 PM »

Guyanese in NYC are mostly Indo-Guyanese I think (there is an Indo-Guyanese enclave in Queens), and census doesn't count them in the "West Indian" category.
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2017, 04:31:32 PM »
« Edited: March 05, 2017, 04:33:47 PM by Tintrlvr »

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Guyanese in NYC are mostly Indo-Guyanese I think (there is an Indo-Guyanese enclave in Queens), and census doesn't count them in the "West Indian" category.

They usually self-identify racially as "Other" on the Census. There are some precincts in Ozone Park, Richmond Hill and Woodhaven, Queens that are plurality "Other" on the Census, which I believe are the only places in the country where that is the case.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2017, 04:16:33 PM »

According to this book chapter, first- and second-generation West Indians made up 11% of NYC's population and less than half of NYC blacks were of "native stock."

http://tinyurl.com/jk3j4qk

So roughly half of NYC's non-Hispanic Black population.
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2017, 05:56:44 PM »

Guyanese in NYC are mostly Indo-Guyanese I think (there is an Indo-Guyanese enclave in Queens), and census doesn't count them in the "West Indian" category.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2017, 09:12:18 PM »
« Edited: March 07, 2017, 01:03:19 AM by King of Kensington »

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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2017, 04:20:53 PM »

It's interesting to note that about 25% of the Black population of NYC in the 1920s was of Caribbean origin, a proportion that obviously declined during the Great Migration but increased significantly after 1970 or so.

For instance Colin Powell, Eric Holder, Shirley Chisholm and Harry Belafonte were/are of Caribbean descent.

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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2017, 05:21:37 PM »

In other news, Hudson has a fair number of black Puerto Ricans with Spanish names. Almost all are from NYC.
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