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« on: March 07, 2017, 08:21:49 AM »

Are you actually dumb enough to not realise that this if this were true it'd be extremely damning for Comrade Trump
You don't find a presidential candidate being bugged by the President in the name of "national security" and the CIA a little familiar? You haven't heard this story before?

This is just another conspiracy theory with zero evidence, and it is not being backed by the intelligence community.

You know what IS being backed by the intelligence community? That Trump and his team colluded with Russia to win the election.

And anyway, even if the wiretapping did happen, you just said it was in the name of national security. Wouldn't a presidential campaign working with a foreign power to hack our election system be a threat to our national security?
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2017, 10:09:12 AM »


Oh neat, a cartoon to prove your point. You've convinced me, and all it took was Scooby-dooby-doo!
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2017, 05:36:33 PM »

I think Trump's inner circle is running scared. Carson, Wikileaks, now Pence backing up Carson, all since Trump launched Idiotgate with the tweets about wiretapps. They are desperate to drag the media and the public off the scent. I don't think Trump is smart enough for that, but his personal advisers are, and this reeks of Trump-camp flavored desperation.

And I can't see why, if there was truly nothing there, they could just sit back and let all their enemies waste the next three month screaming in public about non-existent Russian connections. Even Trump's tender ego should be able to take that. He could make weekly speeches that were equal mixes of pleasant sounding nonsense (like his not-SotU) and denouncing his enemies for the ridiculous lies.

I grow more convinced every day that, from the Big Cheeto on down, there really was some sort of back-channel deal with Russia. Maybe about the emails, maybe blackmail, maybe some old or new bribe, maybe even just a plan made in good faith but with terrible optics.  But there's no reason to lie, twist, cover, and do themselves so much damage otherwise. Even if they all are complete idiots.


This is the bottom line. Anyone who wants to conveniently overlook this behavior is blind.

Yep.

There's something fishy, but Trump supporters are ignoring it. But you know they would be the first ones screaming had Hillary won and all this stuff with Russia started coming out that they helped her win. They are the opposite of patriots.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2017, 09:14:11 AM »
« Edited: March 09, 2017, 09:15:43 AM by Clay »

All they have are conspiracy theories.  It's what they do.

"There's something going on...."

Benghazi.

Hillary having secret lesbian love affairs.

The Vince Foster suicide really being a murder perpetrated by the Clinton's (along with other deaths).

PizzaGate.

Obama created ISIS.

Obama is a Muslim.

Obama was not born in the U.S.

The Clinton's have a sex slave island.

Trump would've won the popular vote if not for millions of illegal votes being cast.

Obama wiretapped Trump Tower.

Hillary Clinton is extremely ill (coughing fits; near collapse). (Also see: Hillary has a body double.)

You know what none of these conspiracy theories have? Evidence.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2017, 01:45:02 PM »

That our intelligence agencies are saying it happened is evidence in itself.

But anyway, I agree that an investigation is very much needed. If it turns out to be completely false, then awesome and we have nothing to worry about. But if it turns out to be true, as our intelligence agencies are saying, well then that's a huge deal.

Either way, the accusations are there, and they are being backed by reputable sources, meaning that an investigation into the matter is required. If you don't agree with that, then you don't actually care at all about national security or preserving the sanctity of our elections.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2017, 07:21:57 PM »

That our intelligence agencies are saying it happened is evidence in itself.

But anyway, I agree that an investigation is very much needed. If it turns out to be completely false, then awesome and we have nothing to worry about. But if it turns out to be true, as our intelligence agencies are saying, well then that's a huge deal.

Either way, the accusations are there, and they are being backed by reputable sources, meaning that an investigation into the matter is required. If you don't agree with that, then you don't actually care at all about national security or preserving the sanctity of our elections.
Well the DNC/Podesta hacks/leaks clearly happened. That merits investigation. The claim that the Russians did it has been made and that merits investigation, although the claim has been highly contested amongst experts, as mentioned in this article below


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But lets leave that matter to one side for the moment. Even if it was established that Russia was behind the hacks, which is far from being proven at all, that still wouldn't prove that Trump or his campaign had any connection to the hacks. To prove that it would need to be established that there were illegal communications and co-ordination between Russia and the Trump team. There has been zero evidence presented that has even suggested this is true. The intelligence agencies certainly haven't presented evidence for this claim. On the contrary people like Comey and Clapper have just spent the last week rushing out to say that no such evidence has been found.

Breitbart isn't a legitimate source. Try harder. I would even accept Fox News, but if all you're using is an alt-right and racist website that shows absolute favoritism for all things Trump then no thanks, I can't take you seriously.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2017, 09:59:51 AM »

Breitbart isn't a legitimate source.
I'm sure they'll be devastated that you don't consider them a legitimate news source

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No, I've demonstrated rather well that you fervent faith in this Trump/Russia conspiracy theory isn't justified by the evidence without needing to try any harder.

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LOL. A foaming at the mouth Trump hater has declared he doesn't take me seriously, oh woe is me.

Because all you've got is a story on a fake news website.

You just refuse to see that you might've helped to elect an actual traitor.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2017, 05:14:13 AM »


I predict he'll be gone much sooner than 4 years. He is not a fit for this job, and he knows it.

I think even most of his supporters know it, deep down.
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