Opinion of the Dalai Lama

[TDAS04]

FF for sure.

[Horus]

Major FF

[Antonio the Sixth]

Unquestionable FF.

[Kingpoleon]

Massive FF, and I fully support the independence of the people of Tibet and Taiwan, and the independence or great autonomy of Hong Kong.

[Unapologetic Chinaperson]

Definitely has some good traits, but he's far from an unquestionable FF, considering that he has advocated for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Definitely has some good traits, but he's far from an unquestionable FF, considering that he has advocated for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation.

LOL, I guess the Polish government in exile from 1940-45 was "advocating for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation" too...

[Santander]

Lean HP

[Kingpoleon]

Definitely has some good traits, but he's far from an unquestionable FF, considering that he has advocated for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation.

LOL, I guess the Polish government in exile from 1940-45 was "advocating for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation" too...

That was different because China doesn't keep political/ethnic/religious prisoners or occupy a foreign country.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Definitely has some good traits, but he's far from an unquestionable FF, considering that he has advocated for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation.

LOL, I guess the Polish government in exile from 1940-45 was "advocating for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation" too...

That was different because China doesn't keep political/ethnic/religious prisoners or occupy a foreign country.

...

It does both of these things.

[Kingpoleon]

Definitely has some good traits, but he's far from an unquestionable FF, considering that he has advocated for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation.

LOL, I guess the Polish government in exile from 1940-45 was "advocating for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation" too...

That was different because China doesn't keep political/ethnic/religious prisoners or occupy a foreign country.

...

It does both of these things.

Yes, I was being rather sarcastic. China is very horrible for doing such things, but many Westerners I have heard try to justify it by calling it "better than it used to be," and somehow thinking that China is better than Russia on human rights and commitment to democracy.

[Zioneer]

I think he's an FF, especially since even the huge flaws of pre-PRC Tibet can't be attributed to him, since he was what, a teenager when it fell to the PRC?

[Unapologetic Chinaperson]

Definitely has some good traits, but he's far from an unquestionable FF, considering that he has advocated for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation.

LOL, I guess the Polish government in exile from 1940-45 was "advocating for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation" too...

Did you really just compare China to Nazi Germany?

[TDAS04]

Definitely has some good traits, but he's far from an unquestionable FF, considering that he has advocated for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation.

LOL, I guess the Polish government in exile from 1940-45 was "advocating for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation" too...

Did you really just compare China to Nazi Germany?

Mao killed more people than Hitler, even if the current Chinese government isn't quite as bad as it was under Mao.

[Unapologetic Chinaperson]

Definitely has some good traits, but he's far from an unquestionable FF, considering that he has advocated for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation.

LOL, I guess the Polish government in exile from 1940-45 was "advocating for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation" too...

Did you really just compare China to Nazi Germany?

Mao killed more people than Hitler, even if the current Chinese government isn't quite as bad as it was under Mao.

You definitely have a point there, Mao was quite the HP to say the least. But the Great Leap Forward - the event that gave Mao the bigger-than-Hitler death toll - was a result of (extremely) poor policy, not out of a deliberate desire to genocide anyone. And while the Cultural Revolution was very bad - my own family lived through it - it never got to the same extent the Holocaust did.

After all, despite CCP repression, the Tibetans are still alive and kicking.

[Intell]

Neutral, far from an absolute FF.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Definitely has some good traits, but he's far from an unquestionable FF, considering that he has advocated for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation.

LOL, I guess the Polish government in exile from 1940-45 was "advocating for the destabilization and breakup of a sovereign nation" too...

Did you really just compare China to Nazi Germany?

Mao killed more people than Hitler, even if the current Chinese government isn't quite as bad as it was under Mao.

You definitely have a point there, Mao was quite the HP to say the least. But the Great Leap Forward - the event that gave Mao the bigger-than-Hitler death toll - was a result of (extremely) poor policy, not out of a deliberate desire to genocide anyone. And while the Cultural Revolution was very bad - my own family lived through it - it never got to the same extent the Holocaust did.

After all, despite CCP repression, the Tibetans are still alive and kicking.

Ah yes the age old communist defense, "Yes we killed 3 times as many people as Hitler, but it was for the people" and thus is less bad. Communism failed to erase Russian nationalize, but they did manage to "accidentally" erase several million Ukranian farmers through starvation. China has basically abandoned most every Communist principle at this point, except the whole dictatorship part.

Totalitarianism is totalitarianism. It doesn't matter what bullcrap theory is peddled to justify the rule of murderers and thugs.

[Beet]

The whole "Mao killed more people that Hitler" thing is a function of 1950s China having a population over 10 times more than 1930s Germany's. That's not to say that Mao wasn't an evil person, however, it's possible for a more evil person to kill fewer, because they had less opportunity to do so. Also, there's a difference between a policy whose end goal is the deaths of people, or starting a war that is certainly known will lead to people's deaths, and implementing a failed agricultural policy based on fraudulent Soviet science, even if that policy was later adhered two for two and a half years longer than it should have out of a pigheaded refusal to admit error. In any case, the Chinese government basically stopped defending anything that happened between 1958 and 1976 after 1978, similar to the about-face on the Moscow Trials initiated by Khruschev after the Secret Speech.