Approval poll: New Atlas moderators

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Vote.

[Ban my account ffs!]

While I don't think they will do a bad job, and they certainly improve the overall pool of moderators... I am always deeply skeptical of people who would seek middle management.

Of course this is the least of my concerns.  I actually don't like the message that elevating Muon to such a position sends to the sizable forum LGBT community. 

[Enduro]

At this point, who would say no?

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Yes x3

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

A bit early, no?

[windjammer]

A bit early, no?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I'd like to assure everybody the Cave is not a sinister place as some would suggest.

[LLR]

I agree with Snowguy - these three were good picks, but muon for modadmin was questionable.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Yes x3

[Mr. Morden]

Approve of what about them?  Approve of the fact that they were chosen?  Or approve of the job they're doing so far?

Also, with regard to the second modadmin position that Muon has now taken.....the purpose of that position is to prevent the forum from being overrun with porn spammers and the like, not to interfere with day to day moderation on other boards.  What did I actually use my modadmin abilities for?:

1) Ban confirmed sock or spam accounts
2) Delete the posts of confirmed sock or spam accounts if the mods of the relevant boards don't get to it first

Other than that, I never interfered with the moderation on any boards I wasn't assigned to, except the 2016 and 2020 boards, because that was part of the deal we had going during the election busy season, that the 2016 board needed me to help out in moderation there even after I was no longer assigned to it.  I also on a few occasions dealt with moderation issues on "The Atlas" board, but that stuff was almost always left up to Dave or Nym to deal with.

Banning posters who were not confirmed sock or spam accounts was always left up to Nym (or on the rare occasion he would get involved, to Dave).  Maybe the new regime will change around the responsibilities, but if it's set up like it was when I was there, then Muon as secondary modadmin will have no real impact on moderation decisions, because the only real decisions he'd be making 99% of the time would be "Is this a sock account or not?"  Muon and Ernest are the best of the remaining mods at understanding the technical side of the forum, and Ernest was looking to scale back his duties rather than expand them (hence, his being replaced by PiT on US General Discussion).  So Muon was the obvious choice for this.

[Santander]

I'd like to assure everybody the Cave is not a sinister place as some would suggest.

List of people we don't like.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yes to all.

[Torie]

I agree with Snowguy - these three were good picks, but muon for modadmin was questionable.

Aside from the tech ability, Muon2 is quite cautious about exercising his power, which is a particularly important quality in a modadmin (with Morden choosing just to take out the garbage with his power). Nym is the same way actually. The more power one has, the more cautious one should be in using it.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Approve of what about them?  Approve of the fact that they were chosen?  Or approve of the job they're doing so far?

Also, with regard to the second modadmin position that Muon has now taken.....the purpose of that position is to prevent the forum from being overrun with porn spammers and the like, not to interfere with day to day moderation on other boards.  What did I actually use my modadmin abilities for?:

1) Ban confirmed sock or spam accounts
2) Delete the posts of confirmed sock or spam accounts if the mods of the relevant boards don't get to it first

Other than that, I never interfered with the moderation on any boards I wasn't assigned to, except the 2016 and 2020 boards, because that was part of the deal we had going during the election busy season, that the 2016 board needed me to help out in moderation there even after I was no longer assigned to it.  I also on a few occasions dealt with moderation issues on "The Atlas" board, but that stuff was almost always left up to Dave or Nym to deal with.

Banning posters who were not confirmed sock or spam accounts was always left up to Nym (or on the rare occasion he would get involved, to Dave).  Maybe the new regime will change around the responsibilities, but if it's set up like it was when I was there, then Muon as secondary modadmin will have no real impact on moderation decisions, because the only real decisions he'd be making 99% of the time would be "Is this a sock account or not?"  Muon and Ernest are the best of the remaining mods at understanding the technical side of the forum, and Ernest was looking to scale back his duties rather than expand them (hence, his being replaced by PiT on US General Discussion).  So Muon was the obvious choice for this.

Nobody is questioning your moderator tenure, Mr. Morden.  

I think it is important to give Muon the benefit of the doubt.  I think he'll do just fine in holding back the tsunami of bullsh**t that we rarely even see because you guys handle it well enough.  I just want to make it clear that any decision he makes regarding an LGBT poster is transparent at the very least to LGBT mods.  I trust he would make the right decision anyway, but I would ask that mods like Torie and Virginia make concerns known if there are any to be had.

[Mr. Morden]

I'd like to assure everybody the Cave is not a sinister place as some would suggest.

Aizen's version of this was better:

http://i.imgur.com/1DOiFlm.png

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I'd like to assure everybody the Cave is not a sinister place as some would suggest.

Aizen's version of this was better:

http://i.imgur.com/1DOiFlm.png

Doesn't load for me

[Meclazine for Israel]

Virginia is first class. Whether via PM or through the forum, her qualities are immediately visible.

Kal needs to cut the alcohol intake, but always pays close attention, so he will be fine.

And PIT is a physicist as am I, so I have no doubt's there.

Great choices.

[Devout Centrist]

Three FF's, ofc

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

did muon join WBC or something? 

approve of PiT and Virginia. somewhat disapprove of Kal atm because of unstickying Advanced Mapmaking thread.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

did muon join WBC or something? 

approve of PiT and Virginia. somewhat disapprove of Kal atm because of unstickying Advanced Mapmaking thread.

Hey, I considered your points and re-sticked it. I'm a listening person

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Yes to all 3

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

All three have my approval, but that could change should they end up opposing my idea of creating "Hell Atlas." This would be a hidden subforum only viewable by banned posters. That way, the sockmasters would just take out their desire to troll on one another. We'd just need like one moderator to make sure nobody posts torture porn or something like that.

[🕴🏼Melior🕴🏼]

Approve, especially as all of them are young and none of them are lawyers or aspiring lawyers.

Three suggested rules for improving Atlas moderation:

(1) No lawyers.
(2) No law students.
(3) No appointments past age 35, and no service past age 40.

If you don't mind me asking, what's the story behind this? Why are you so against lawyers/law students becoming moderators? I'm new here.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Approve, especially as all of them are young and none of them are lawyers or aspiring lawyers.

Three suggested rules for improving Atlas moderation:

(1) No lawyers.
(2) No law students.
(3) No appointments past age 35, and no service past age 40.

If you don't mind me asking, what's the story behind this? Why are so against lawyers/law students becoming moderators? I'm new here.

Torie, mostly.

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

After having left the forum for three days in protest of Virginia’s appointment as a Mod, I wish to specify and explain my grievances in regards to two of the recent mod picks by the mysterious “Dave Leip”.

Virginia is nothing more than a complete partisan hack, an utter sh**t-tier poster (just look at her posting history!) on the level of Runeghost, whose #analysis was proven wrong almost in its entirety by the manner and form of Trump’s victory. Hardly any of her conclusions, the majority derived due to sheer partisan hackery for the Democrats, have had even a grain of truth to them for the duration of her posting here. She has produced no evidence of the capability of being truly objective –a necessity for any good moderator pick. Indeed, her support for Hillary Clinton while posting utterly partisan-motivated defense of mindless xenophobia and Deep State abuses ( https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=260088.msg5554762#msg5554762 https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=260188.msg5555290#msg5555290 ) suggests exactly the opposite for her ability to ever be truly objective. I am, thus, shocked she was appointed as mod, even as she did not even go so far as to apply for a mod position in the POST HERE IF YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERED AS A MOD thread (perhaps the most shocking part of this appointment to me!). Her appointment as a Mod was nothing less than a blow against men, correct prognosticators, and objective observers on all parts of this forum, including sensible left-wingers. Nothing she has ever done on this forum has shown her even remotely fit to be mod, and, though none of what she has done on this forum is bannable, everything she has done on this forum since having become a mod has done nothing but to buttress my claims that she is vastly unfit for the task. Her saccharine writing style is no substitute for that.

Secondly, her appointment represents a complete lack of regard for the nature of the demographics of this forum. Cis-female overrepresentation among mods on this forum is already totally unjustified. Since there are only like six active cis female posters on this board, the presence of two cis-female Democratic moderators risks nothing less than, whether purposefully or accidentally, the establishment of female supremacy over the overwhelming male majority of this forum’s community. If all the cis women of this forum are to become mods, how can one call this forum fairly governed, and not a gender-based caste society? I cannot countenance such overt discrimination without remark. Are there no good men (or even trans-females) here to take on Mr. Leip’s favor?

Kalwejt is not a good man, BTW. He was also an extremely inadvisable choice by Mr. Leip. A former sockmaster (LarryT, anyone?), general sh**t-tier poster, and someone who called for me to be banned for no reason whatsoever but sheer ideological malice ( https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=259261.msg5534015#msg5534015 ) should never have been made a mod due precisely to these reasons. For once, BRTD is right. The fact he has been appointed so shows severe lack of judgment and foresight on Mr. Leip’s part, which, again, I cannot let go without remark. Can a sockmaster hunt socks? Can a leopard change his spots? Can someone who showed his desire to ban me for no good reason be fair to me as a mod? The answers to all these questions are “no”, ladies and gentlemen, and all sensible men must admit this. Kalwejt is a very poor pick for a mod.

Who’s going to be appointed Mod next? Runeghost? Mondale Won 1 State? Pbrower2a? Lief? ApatheticAustrian? Jacobin American? I desire for this forum to be great. I cannot let such poor decisions stand without comment.
To prove my objections to the above two mod picks are not motivated solely by partisan bias, and to demonstrate my desire for this forum to thrive, I here list a slate of quality Democratic posters which would make very respectable and solid mods:
L.D. Smith (not a hack; calls it as he sees it, though a tad stubborn)
Tender Branson (former mod; should be allowed back)
NOVA Green (great guy; friend of the people)
Siren (female)
CrabCake (female)
Peebs (trans female)
ssuperflash (has focus)
Aevorres Nix (has focus and is generally objective)
Heck, even BRTD or Non Swing Voter would be obviously superior as mods to either Virginia or Kalwejt, despite my great disagreements with both of them, due to their deep history with the forum.
To avert further such terrible picks, being a true friend of the people of this forum, I call for the direct election of moderators by the members of this forum of the tier “YaBB God”, or, if such cannot be countenanced, a spoils system based on the results of the results of the previous Federal-level elections, with only members of parties currently in power in either the White House or either chamber of Congress be allowed to be appointed Mod. However, due to the obvious unsuitability of the Virginia and Kalwejt mod picks even in good times for the Democrats, I consider the spoils system to be somewhat inferior to my proposal for the direct election of moderators. Moderators should be term-limited to two years.

BTW, if unflattering and entirely untrue descriptions of me can be left to stand (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=259939.msg5552290#msg5552290 ), so can my unflattering and entirely true descriptions of recent shockingly bad moderator appointments.

I shall thus not post in any thread manned by either Virginia or Kalwejt without some sign of disapproval of them having been appointed mods.