North Korea offered talks, Trump rejected

[Beet]

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http://theweek.com/speedreads/682464/planned-usnorth-korea-talks-canceled

Offering diplomacy sounds like something a crazy, suicidal madman would do, right?

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Trump was probably afraid of being out-trolled. North Korea is the one entity that can out-troll Trump

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I thought it was treason to talk with our enemies? Make your minds up.

[MasterJedi]

I thought it was treason to talk with our enemies? Make your minds up.

It's treason when you work with a foreign power to help win you an election. It's not treason to have official diplomatic talks between nations. Not that hard to understand.

[Zioneer]

I thought it was treason to talk with our enemies? Make your minds up.

It's treason when you work with a foreign power to help win you an election. It's not treason to have official diplomatic talks between nations. Not that hard to understand.

Trump supporters are being deliberately obtuse about foreign policy in order to undermine the valid questions non-Trumpists have regarding Russia, yes.

[Pericles]

North Korea has always been talking and never walking on nukes. Talks would have had 0 chance of success.

[Beet]

North Korea has always been talking and never walking on nukes. Talks would have had 0 chance of success.

So diplomacy shouldn't even be tried? The North is afraid if they give up their nukes, they will be more vulnerable to being attacked. No matter how terrible Kim Jong Un is, it's actually very rational if you think about it.

[Green Line]

You can't negotiate with a rogue state like North Korea.  The best option is to isolate and contain.

[Lord Halifax]

Should of invited him to the US honestly

To Disneyland?

[Beezer]

What is Rodman up to these days?

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You can't negotiate with a rogue state like North Korea.  The best option is to isolate and contain.

Yes, it worked out just fine with Cuba and Iran...

Oh wait.

[Simfan34]

We're not seriously pretending the DPRK is acting in good faith, are we?

[Spark]

Trump wanted to talk in the beginning, but there is no negotiation with Kim Jong Un and the North Korean people. We shouldn't be negotiating with a dictatorship anyway.

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We shouldn't be negotiating with a dictatorship anyway.

Given the world community has a large presence of dictatorship, I can't help but consider this statement stupid.

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The 1994 negotiations resulted in North Korea freezing it nuclear weapons program. Although ridiculed by some then and now, without this the Kim family would by now have much bigger stockpile. It appeared a permanent settlement might be achieved in 2000 during Clinton's last years, until Dubya reversed it all, pretty much giving Kim Jong-il a free hand in developing nukes. Sorry, but "let's ignore and contain them" attitude doesn't help neither the Democratic world nor even a single person in North Korea.

No, I'm not saying "horray, let's just forget everything". I'm saying doors can't be closed.

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Trump wanted to talk in the beginning, but there is no negotiation with Kim Jong Un and the North Korean people. We shouldn't be negotiating with a dictatorship anyway.

Jongun does not represent the long-oppressed people of North Korea.

There is no easy answer. Military action would be a disaster. It would place millions of people at risk  threaten a globally important city and cause a wave of refugees that neither Korea nor China nor the international community could deal with. Read an Atlantic article from 2005:

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(and this is assuming it sticks to the peninsula, which it certainly wouldn't with an anti-Chinese hothead as CoC).

The de facto solution: isolation; has only served to entrench the Kim regime - as the ciuntry has been more isolated, the central regime has become less and less willing to entertain an equivalent of perestroika or glastnot. The ordinary North Koreans are unable to rise up and any factions in the elite able to topple the leader are swept aside. To continue this path would be leading further millions of Koreans to be victims of their government.

Unfortunately negotiation by resuming the six party talks before they were wrecked + a modified, less naive Sunshine policy, along the lines of what Minjoo are now proposing, is the only real solution. Not a good one, given
that North Korea is still North Korea; but really the only one.