Describe an Obama 2008, Romney 2012, McMullin 2016 voter..

[jamestroll]

Not many of these creatures exist but their dynamics would be interesting.

[Xing]

A moderate Mormon in Utah.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Upper Middle Class Republican who was freaked out by Palin and the financial crisis in 08. Probably not all that uncommon.

[Matty]

Actually, thousands existed in utah.

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

Actually, thousands existed in utah.

-Yup. Idaho, as well.

[Chinggis]

Not many of these creatures exist but their dynamics would be interesting.

Well-educated Mormon sophisticates, especially in academia. There are thousands of those people in and around Provo, metro SLC, and Rexburg. The BYU precincts in Provo and Rexburg^* show dramatic swings to Obama in 2008 (granted, we're talking about 15% of the vote vice 3% or whatever for Kerry in Rexburg!), followed by equally dramatic swings to Romney in 2012 and McMullin in 2016. iirc McMullin actually won a majority of voters in some of the core BYU precincts! His top two counties, at 30% each, are Provo's Utah County and Rexburg's Madison County.

Here's a real challenge: describe a Schmitz '72/McMullin '16 voter! (Hint: it's an old Mormon in Utah or Idaho)

^* I don't know much about it, but I would assume the BYU-Hawaii precincts show similar trends?

[GoTfan]

Not many of these creatures exist but their dynamics would be interesting.

Well-educated Mormon sophisticates, especially in academia. There are thousands of those people in and around Provo, metro SLC, and Rexburg. The BYU precincts in Provo and Rexburg^* show dramatic swings to Obama in 2008 (granted, we're talking about 15% of the vote vice 3% or whatever for Kerry in Rexburg!), followed by equally dramatic swings to Romney in 2012 and McMullin in 2016. iirc McMullin actually won a majority of voters in some of the core BYU precincts! His top two counties, at 30% each, are Provo's Utah County and Rexburg's Madison County.

Here's a real challenge: describe a Schmitz '72/McMullin '16 voter! (Hint: it's an old Mormon in Utah or Idaho)

^* I don't know much about it, but I would assume the BYU-Hawaii precincts show similar trends?

It's possible that they could've been excited by Obama's candidacy, but then became disappointed in him.

[catscanjumphigh]

A Mormon Republican who hated the war in Iraq.

[TDAS04]

A moderate Mormon Republican turned off by Bush's foreign policy, attracted by "moderate" Mitt Romney's religion, and appalled by Trump.

[Figueira]

A Mormon moderate Democrat in Utah who always votes Democratic unless there's a Mormon on the ballot.

[LLR]

Independent Minnesotan excited by the prospects of Obama in '08, but got let down and voted for Romney. Was #NeverTrump and couldn't stomach hillary in 2016.

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Probably not too hard to find in Utah.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Never Trump Republican who was angry at the gop in 2008

[All Along The Watchtower]

Not many of these creatures exist but their dynamics would be interesting.

Well-educated Mormon sophisticates, especially in academia. There are thousands of those people in and around Provo, metro SLC, and Rexburg. The BYU precincts in Provo and Rexburg^* show dramatic swings to Obama in 2008 (granted, we're talking about 15% of the vote vice 3% or whatever for Kerry in Rexburg!), followed by equally dramatic swings to Romney in 2012 and McMullin in 2016. iirc McMullin actually won a majority of voters in some of the core BYU precincts! His top two counties, at 30% each, are Provo's Utah County and Rexburg's Madison County.

Here's a real challenge: describe a Schmitz '72/McMullin '16 voter! (Hint: it's an old Mormon in Utah or Idaho)

^* I don't know much about it, but I would assume the BYU-Hawaii precincts show similar trends?

It's possible that they could've been excited by Obama's candidacy, but then became disappointed in him.

Yeah, a lot of (relatively) young, affluent, university-educated Republican voters (particularly in large metropolitan areas) voted for Obama in 08 not just because of the economic meltdown, onset of the Great Recession, disillusionment over the George W. Bush Presidency, McCain's clueless ineptness, and Palin's far-right populist extremism, but also because the idea of the first black President - and the fact that Barack Obama was the black (male) Democratic nominee rather than someone like, say, Jesse Jackson or (lmao) Bobby Rush or Cornel West - was quite appealing to many people across the political spectrum.

[Adam Griffin]

Probably not too hard to find in Utah.

Or in this thread.