Opinion of Sanders-Trump voters

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

Most of them are misguided people whom the left should strive to convince rather than demonize.

This will probably be my opinion too, as the dust settles.

[Xing]

Republicans mostly think they're FFs, Democrats mostly think they're HPs. Who would've guessed!?

I'll make the crazy prediction that if you were to ask about Republican primary voters who backed Clinton in the GE, most blue avatars would think they're HPs, and most red avatars would call them FFs.

Basically, it goes like this:

Party A voter backs Party B candidate.

Party A: Traitor! Idiot! Not a real Party A voter!

Party B: WOOHOO! What a great, principled person! This incontrovertibly proves our candidate is better!

Anyway, I'd say that Democrats should definitely try to reach out to and understand these voters, though it does seem clear to me that these voters do not have a coherent ideology (unless they're single issue trade voters, or something.)

[Illiniwek]

Vile idiots

Made the wrong choice twice

[Goldwater]

Anyway, I'd say that Democrats should definitely try to reach out to and understand these voters, though it does seem clear to me that these voters do not have a coherent ideology (unless they're single issue trade voters, or something.)

Of course, the thing to keep in mind is that most voters don't hvee a coherent ideology

[pikachu]

After having the chance to talk to a few, lean HP, definitely misguided, definitely not dumb.

[Beet]

As a Clinton-Clinton voter, I have to concede these are not necessarily bad people.

[Devout Centrist]

Idiots, through and through.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

I bet there were more Hillary/Trump voters, her campaign was just that terrible. Obviously lots didn't show up because her campaign was about how we are doing great when so many Americans with stagnated wages weren't feeling it.

[RFayette]

Lean FF, though their support of Bernie means that we disagree on at least half of the issues, though Hillary Clinton is a mega-HP, so anyone who voted against her is an FF.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

We need to distinguish between two categories of Sanders-Trump voters. First are those represented best by primary voters in Oklahoma or West Virginia: once again they voted against Obama by proxy and would vote Republican in GE anyway. The others are those Hillary did not manage to convince in GE. Given the fact many deep red states Sanders won had caucuses, there are not that many of them, actually.

[Intell]

We need to distinguish between two categories of Sanders-Trump voters. First are those represented best by primary voters in Oklahoma or West Virginia: once again they voted against Obama by proxy and would vote Republican in GE anyway. The others are those Hillary did not manage to convince in GE. Given the fact many deep red states Sanders won had caucuses, there are not that many of them, actually.

I think one needs to note, that many of these Sanders voted that voted for Trump, would've been open, and would've voted for Sanders, though they would in no chance, vote for Clinton, especially because  of her horror train of a campaign.

[Deblano]

Most of them are misguided people whom the left should strive to convince rather than demonize.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Anyway, I'd say that Democrats should definitely try to reach out to and understand these voters, though it does seem clear to me that these voters do not have a coherent ideology (unless they're single issue trade voters, or something.)

Of course, the thing to keep in mind is that most voters don't hvee a coherent ideology

Exactly.

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

We need to distinguish between two categories of Sanders-Trump voters. First are those represented best by primary voters in Oklahoma or West Virginia: once again they voted against Obama by proxy and would vote Republican in GE anyway. The others are those Hillary did not manage to convince in GE. Given the fact many deep red states Sanders won had caucuses, there are not that many of them, actually.

-How about those in Arkansas? It's a fully open primary, unlike WV and OK, and it's a fact that in quite a few Arkansas counties, despite HRC winning the Dem primary in a landslide in 2016, there were more Dem primary votes in some counties in 2016 than there were HRC general election votes.

Also, there were a number of these in Michigan, and probably WI and Indiana -all states O won in 08.

[they don't love you like i love you]

jfern is a Horrible Person.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Most of them are misguided people whom the left should strive to convince rather than demonize.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Most of them are misguided people whom the left should strive to convince rather than demonize.

Trying to convince jfern is about as productive as trying to convince a brick wall. It'd be like wanting to change the color of your house so you stand outside and yell at your house to change its color instead of painting it.

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

Most of them are misguided people whom the left should strive to convince rather than demonize.

Trying to convince jfern is about as productive as trying to convince a brick wall. It'd be like wanting to change the color of your house so you stand outside and yell at your house to change its color instead of painting it.

-It's called principle: something some have a hard time recognizing.

[Unapologetic Chinaperson]

In my perception, the Sanders-Trump people I know tend to believe in a form of leftism that's more about "disobey and destroy the establishment" than working towards actual leftist ideas.

There's also a guy who's pretty notorious at my school for being a vocal Sanders-Trump guy. He's only one guy, but considering that he calls his bisexual sister an "abomination," I feel that these people aren't as progressive as you think they are.

[Reaganfan]

Bernie was hitting the right chords but the wrong notes. Had he been Bernie with "Pull up ya damn pants and respect the police!" he would have won, but instead his liberalism appealed to those issues in ways that turned off white voters. Hence, he lost the nomination and would have probably lost the general election.

He was lacking the "angry white man" inside himself. It was more like he was an "angry husband defending his wife at the store".

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

Bernie was hitting the right chords but the wrong notes. Had he been Bernie with "Pull up ya damn pants and respect the police!" he would have won, but instead his liberalism appealed to those issues in ways that turned off white voters. Hence, he lost the nomination and would have probably lost the general election.

He was lacking the "angry white man" inside himself. It was more like he was an "angry husband defending his wife at the store".

-He. Won. The White. Vote. In. The. Primary.

[Person Man]

Confused.

[Reaganfan]

Bernie was hitting the right chords but the wrong notes. Had he been Bernie with "Pull up ya damn pants and respect the police!" he would have won, but instead his liberalism appealed to those issues in ways that turned off white voters. Hence, he lost the nomination and would have probably lost the general election.

He was lacking the "angry white man" inside himself. It was more like he was an "angry husband defending his wife at the store".

-He. Won. The White. Vote. In. The. Primary.

Yeah but millions of other white voters, unaffiliated politically, had a chance to register in the Democratic Primary to vote for him. Instead, they registered in the Republican Primary to vote for Donald Trump.

[Higgs]

"We support socialism, the environment and LGBT rights, which is why we're voting for the billionaire homophobe who thinks global warming is a Chinese hoax.

homophobe?

[MAINEiac4434]

"We support socialism, the environment and LGBT rights, which is why we're voting for the billionaire homophobe who thinks global warming is a Chinese hoax.

homophobe?

He chose Mike Pence to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. He's a homophobe.