The Bernie Wing Takeover continues- Firebrand Morgan Carroll elected as CO Chair
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« on: March 12, 2017, 12:26:43 PM »

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Congratulations, @MorganLCarroll! @coloradodems have a bright future behind your progressive, people-powered vision!

Colorado Democrats elected former Senate President Morgan Carroll as state party chair Saturday at a central committee meeting in Denver.

“I believe what we need right now is a movement, not just a club, and I believe the Democratic Party should be on the front lines of the resistance — we must adapt or face extinction,” Carroll told Democrats gathered at the Marriott Denver City Center for the party’s biennial reorganization.

Carroll, an Aurora Democrat, won election to a two-year term by a wide margin, receiving 401 votes to 38 votes for Clear Creek County Commissioner Tim Mauck, who stressed the importance of reaching out to rural and suburban Democrats.

“The Republicans will not fix this mess. The unaffiliateds have no infrastructure. Third parties do not have the numbers. So, therefore, in my view, the future of the free world and our constitutional democracy, our civil rights and liberties and our planet are depending on us and the Democratic Party,” she said, and the crowd went wild.

Carroll said it was crucial to make sure everyone felt welcome in the party and vowed to institute what she called a 64-county strategy.

“My hope,” she said, “is to make us the state party that becomes the model for the whole country.” Describing her vision for the party, Carroll added, “What I would like to do to see the state party at the forefront of the resistance, offer one-stop shop place to go where people can find out when, where and how to be engaged every day, not just on elections.”
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2017, 12:30:20 PM »
« Edited: March 12, 2017, 12:32:02 PM by Maxwell »

I like Carroll but I'm not sure she could be called a firebrand - she was the establishment candidate against Mike Coffman.

then again, she was very strongly anti-lobbyist and a strong enviormentalist.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2017, 02:12:34 PM »

At least it's not the alt-right Trump wing that has taken over the GOP, against the will of the American people.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2017, 05:56:54 PM »

Excellent!
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2017, 07:09:53 PM »

I like Carroll but I'm not sure she could be called a firebrand - she was the establishment candidate against Mike Coffman.

then again, she was very strongly anti-lobbyist and a strong enviormentalist.

Yeah. She stayed out of the primary fight and aligned with the Bernie faction seemingly in the run up to Nov 9.

But you know what? Personal characteristics are immaterial with this sort of thing; it's your backers who matter. So I for one am really happy that a Bernie-backed person is now State Chair
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2017, 07:26:42 PM »

Bernie bros gotta step up their game. We completed our hostile takeover in like six months. It's been like two years. Winning control of a state party in a state where Democrats tend to be more liberal isn't that big of an accomplishment.
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2017, 07:51:51 PM »

Bernie bros gotta step up their game. We completed our hostile takeover in like six months. It's been like two years. Winning control of a state party in a state where Democrats tend to be more liberal isn't that big of an accomplishment.

You primaried some congressmen - we're taking over the organs of candidate recruitment.

I'm going to hazard a guess that prog-populism is going to doing a heckuva lot better in 2022 than TEA Partyism is doing in 2016

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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2017, 08:00:18 PM »

Bernie bros gotta step up their game. We completed our hostile takeover in like six months. It's been like two years. Winning control of a state party in a state where Democrats tend to be more liberal isn't that big of an accomplishment.

You primaried some congressmen - we're taking over the organs of candidate recruitment.

I'm going to hazard a guess that prog-populism is going to doing a heckuva lot better in 2022 than TEA Partyism is doing in 2016
Uh, who needs the party apparatus when the grassroots can remove and install their own choices? In the GOP, that has been the norm for years. In 2013, as a young Ron Paul supporter who just worked on a losing campaign, I was very excited by the ME GOP's Ron Paul faction trying to launch a national challenge to Priebus. It failed. It wasn't even a spark in the pan-the gunpowder never went off, the musket simply didn't fire. Three years later, another outsider running on a relatively paleoconservative platform managed to win the nomination despite sixteen other candidates, the entire media (aside from Fox News, which conveniently went from being anti-Trump to being pro-Trump on Inauguration Day), the intelligence services, and the largest political juggernaut ever assembled in American history. He won. The rest lost.

Plus, the Ron Paul movement successfully took the Iowa GOP in a much more divisive and hostile setting (without resorting to throwing chairs, I may add). It didn't last, of course, and neither will this when the Democrats decide a Booker/Castro ticket of milquetoast Clinton-esque liberalism take over the party and people like Morgan Carroll back them enthusiastically.
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2017, 08:08:06 PM »
« Edited: March 12, 2017, 08:14:47 PM by Shameless Bernie Hack »

Bernie bros gotta step up their game. We completed our hostile takeover in like six months. It's been like two years. Winning control of a state party in a state where Democrats tend to be more liberal isn't that big of an accomplishment.

You primaried some congressmen - we're taking over the organs of candidate recruitment.

I'm going to hazard a guess that prog-populism is going to doing a heckuva lot better in 2022 than TEA Partyism is doing in 2016
Uh, who needs the party apparatus when the grassroots can remove and install their own choices? In the GOP, that has been the norm for years. In 2013, as a young Ron Paul supporter who just worked on a losing campaign, I was very excited by the ME GOP's Ron Paul faction trying to launch a national challenge to Priebus. It failed. It wasn't even a spark in the pan-the gunpowder never went off, the musket simply didn't fire. Three years later, another outsider running on a relatively paleoconservative platform managed to win the nomination despite sixteen other candidates, the entire media (aside from Fox News, which conveniently went from being anti-Trump to being pro-Trump on Inauguration Day), the intelligence services, and the largest political juggernaut ever assembled in American history. He won. The rest lost.

Plus, the Ron Paul movement successfully took the Iowa GOP in a much more divisive and hostile setting (without resorting to throwing chairs, I may add). It didn't last, of course, and neither will this when the Democrats decide a Booker/Castro ticket of milquetoast Clinton-esque liberalism take over the party and people like Morgan Carroll back them enthusiastically.

1) Trump only won because of those sixteen candidates, I wouldn't cite that as a point in your favor
2) Ron Paul =/= Trump. 2500 paratroopers about to deploy to Syria should tell you that. "Bomb the S**t out of ISIS" should've told you that.
3) Chair throwing was a lie, and a silly one at that.
4) You got 2ish states. We've got 5 and counting.
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2017, 09:11:31 PM »
« Edited: March 12, 2017, 09:23:11 PM by Lincoln Republican »

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Congratulations, @MorganLCarroll! @coloradodems have a bright future behind your progressive, people-powered vision!

Colorado Democrats elected former Senate President Morgan Carroll as state party chair Saturday at a central committee meeting in Denver.

“I believe what we need right now is a movement, not just a club, and I believe the Democratic Party should be on the front lines of the resistance — we must adapt or face extinction,” Carroll told Democrats gathered at the Marriott Denver City Center for the party’s biennial reorganization.

Carroll, an Aurora Democrat, won election to a two-year term by a wide margin, receiving 401 votes to 38 votes for Clear Creek County Commissioner Tim Mauck, who stressed the importance of reaching out to rural and suburban Democrats.

“The Republicans will not fix this mess. The unaffiliateds have no infrastructure. Third parties do not have the numbers. So, therefore, in my view, the future of the free world and our constitutional democracy, our civil rights and liberties and our planet are depending on us and the Democratic Party she said, and the crowd went wild.

Carroll said it was crucial to make sure everyone felt welcome in the party and vowed to institute what she called a 64-county strategy.

“My hope,” she said, “is to make us the state party that becomes the model for the whole country.” Describing her vision for the party, Carroll added, “What I would like to do to see the state party at the forefront of the resistance, offer one-stop shop place to go where people can find out when, where and how to be engaged every day, not just on elections.”

This is without a doubt one of the most ridiculous examples of 21st century demagoguery and fear mongering I have ever seen.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2017, 09:21:44 PM »

Bernie bros gotta step up their game. We completed our hostile takeover in like six months. It's been like two years. Winning control of a state party in a state where Democrats tend to be more liberal isn't that big of an accomplishment.

You primaried some congressmen - we're taking over the organs of candidate recruitment.

I'm going to hazard a guess that prog-populism is going to doing a heckuva lot better in 2022 than TEA Partyism is doing in 2016
Uh, who needs the party apparatus when the grassroots can remove and install their own choices? In the GOP, that has been the norm for years. In 2013, as a young Ron Paul supporter who just worked on a losing campaign, I was very excited by the ME GOP's Ron Paul faction trying to launch a national challenge to Priebus. It failed. It wasn't even a spark in the pan-the gunpowder never went off, the musket simply didn't fire. Three years later, another outsider running on a relatively paleoconservative platform managed to win the nomination despite sixteen other candidates, the entire media (aside from Fox News, which conveniently went from being anti-Trump to being pro-Trump on Inauguration Day), the intelligence services, and the largest political juggernaut ever assembled in American history. He won. The rest lost.

Plus, the Ron Paul movement successfully took the Iowa GOP in a much more divisive and hostile setting (without resorting to throwing chairs, I may add). It didn't last, of course, and neither will this when the Democrats decide a Booker/Castro ticket of milquetoast Clinton-esque liberalism take over the party and people like Morgan Carroll back them enthusiastically.

1) Trump only won because of those sixteen candidates, I wouldn't cite that as a point in your favor
2) Ron Paul =/= Trump. 2500 paratroopers about to deploy to Syria should tell you that. "Bomb the S**t out of ISIS" should've told you that.
3) Chair throwing was a lie, and a silly one at that.
4) You got 2ish states. We've got 5 and counting.
I'm just gonna leave you with this.

You all have this:


And we have these:



And soon we'll have this too:
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2017, 12:00:39 AM »
« Edited: March 13, 2017, 12:02:40 AM by Shameless Bernie Hack »


Your faction of the party doesn't control congress, unless you think Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are anti-establishment.  

Your faction of the party doesn't control SCOTUS, unless you think John Roberts is your friend

If you're a Ron Paul type, Trump is not your friend.

Have your wall, I hope it brings you joy.

Meanwhile, my insurgent faction within my party will actually be focusing on taking the White House, Congress, and SCOTUS back from the GOP establishment, which seems to have successfully duped you into thinking that they're on your side.
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2017, 12:17:10 AM »

What happens to the GOP when let's say Trump (hypothetically) loses in 2020? The End of this so-called faction. To build a strong foundation, you need State Chairs, State Leg, Congress, Senate & so on to build it from the ground.

Ron Paul was a fantastic person, I really admired him in 2012 from civil liberties to foreign policy to social issues. He is absolutely nothing like Trump & detests his "steal the oil", "Lets ban Muslims" "Build the wall comments". He is essentially the Anti-Trump. You are not much of an idealogue if you believe in Ron Paul & Trump - You are essentially a Socially somewhat liberal overall Conservative guy who is strongly anti-establishment.

Anyways the fact that Carroll didn't endorse Hillary when everyone did is a good sign & she went & courted the Bernie wing, supported Keith, advocates opening the Dem door for Independents. Ray Buckley has also been very good to the Bernie faction & has in a way hopped over. OurRevolution endorsed Carroll.

The Bernie wing is taking over the party bit by bit & if Brand New Congress/Justice Dems can beat a few House Establishment Dems & win the GE, it will send a chill down the spine of the so-called Dem leadership !
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2017, 12:23:53 AM »

Colorado is a state where this might actually be a good thing if done right.
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2017, 01:04:43 AM »

Unrelated - Michigan Party Gradual Takeover

 An estimated 5,000 Michigan Democrats rallied Saturday at a state party convention in Detroit, an energetic – and at times chaotic – gathering of longtime members and new activists.  As they regroup for the 2018 election cycle, they vowed to fight Republican President Donald Trump.

The turnout – the largest February convention attendance in modern history, according to officials – came despite an uncontested race for state chairman, which saw Brandon Dillon of Grand Rapids win re-election without a challenger.

Dillon was the only chair candidate who submitted signatures to run by the noon deadline, and he was nominated by several prominent Sanders supporters, including new Democratic National Committee member Michelle Deatrick of Superior Township and activist Lena Thompson of Detroit.

Liberal activists inspired by Vermont U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, a former presidential candidate and democratic socialist, looked to make their mark on the party by targeting a number of lower-tier party positions. They boasted a series of wins in caucus races and seats on the state central committee, the party’s main decision making board.

Michigan for Revolution, a youth-led group that has vowed to take on the party “establishment,” scored an early convention win when lead organizer Kelly Collison was elected chair of the state party’s progressive caucus.

Mays, a non-politician herself, won election Saturday as environmental caucus chair. She was endorsed by Michigan to Believe In, a Sanders-inspired group that worked with organized labor on a joint “progressive unity slate” of convention candidates.
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