Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

[TheSaint250]

Bill Cassidy says they'll be replacing GC with yet another bill tomorrow: https://twitter.com/abcpolitics/status/911958582811295744

Whatever the new bill is, it's not passing. Murkowski and Collins will oppose it on ideological grounds (and what does it say about the GOP that I can tell any healthcare bill they propose will be cruel before it's even unrelieved?), as will McCain on procedural grounds.

This will probably be even more of a disaster than any of the previous attempts considering they basically pulled an all-nighter over the weekend to write a massive piece of legislation like it was a college paper.

*has 8 years to create new health care plan*

Congressional GOP: I'll do it the night before

[GeorgiaModerate]

Bill Cassidy says they'll be replacing GC with yet another bill tomorrow: https://twitter.com/abcpolitics/status/911958582811295744

Whatever the new bill is, it's not passing. Murkowski and Collins will oppose it on ideological grounds (and what does it say about the GOP that I can tell any healthcare bill they propose will be cruel before it's even unrelieved?), as will McCain on procedural grounds.

This will probably be even more of a disaster than any of the previous attempts considering they basically pulled an all-nighter over the weekend to write a massive piece of legislation like it was a college paper.

*has 8 years to create new health care plan*

Congressional GOP: I'll do it the night before

Great.  Now every kid in the country doing an assignment at the last minute can say they were inspired by the Republicans.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Haha. ANOTHER new bill? Written in the space of a few days with zero input from key GOP votes nor the other party? This is hilarious and sad.

[Don Vito Corleone]

Haha. ANOTHER new bill? Written in the space of a few days with zero input from key GOP votes nor the other party? This is hilarious and sad.

If my assumption that they started writing this new bill after McCain said he would vote no is correct, then the GOP wrote a bill concerning healthcare, perhaps the most sensitive, delicate, and important topic in politics today, in 48 hours.

[The Other Castro]

More on Cruz and Lee:

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-health-bill-in-major-peril-as-resistance-hardens-among-key-senators/2017/09/24/bc927d06-a134-11e7-ade1-76d061d56efa_story.html?utm_term=.ee742e0a5eae

So what can McConnell, Graham, and Cassidy do to get this bill passed? It's hard to see anything that gets Collins on board, and there don't appear to be any changes that can be made at this point to change McCain to a Yes. Paul will only switch to Yes if major changes are made, which could alienate people like Capito and Portman. It's hard to say what would be the tipping point for Murkowski. Cruz and Lee are probably only going No if this is going down anyway.

If there is any way for this bill to get passed, it would probably rely on Murkowski breaking with her past statements and taking large benefits for Alaska, and big structural changes that are good enough for Paul but not big enough to poison the bill for Capito and Portman types.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Here's where we're at after the latest developments:

Current Whip Count

No: 51
All Dems, Paul, Collins, McCain

Lean No: 1
Cruz

Toss-Up: 3
Murkowski
Lee
Capito

Lean Yes: 3

Ernst
Portman
Moran

Definite Yes (for now): 42

All Other Rs

[Ebsy]

Moran should be in the undecided column.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Moran should be in the undecided column.

Or at least no more than Lean Yes.  Murkowski should probably be Lean No.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Moran should be in the undecided column.

What little I've heard about his position has a lot more of a "dodging the question" flavor, which a lot of senators have been doing when questioned alone. But I edited the post and moved him to Lean Yes to be cautious.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Politico got hold of the bill and the main difference seems to be giveaways to Arizona, Kentucky, and Alaska.

[Dr. Arch]

Politico got hold of the bill and the main difference seems to be giveaways to Arizona, Kentucky, and Alaska.

lol, wow...

[tallguy23]

Politico got hold of the bill and the main difference seems to be giveaways to Arizona, Kentucky, and Alaska.

Pathetic. That won't buy of McCain.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Politico got hold of the bill and the main difference seems to be giveaways to Arizona, Kentucky, and Alaska.

Lol, disgusting. The Republican leadership is morally bankrupt.

[SoLongAtlas]

Cornhusker kickback x3 now. Just duplicitous s**t now and they're not even trying to hid it. McCain will still vote no, imo.

[Frodo]

Politico got hold of the bill and the main difference seems to be giveaways to Arizona, Kentucky, and Alaska.

They should just bring back earmarks already.

[GeorgiaModerate]

CBS News poll, Sep 21-24 on Graham-Cassidy:

Approve 20
Disapprove 55

R: 46/21
D: 2/84
I: 18/46

Strongly Approve 8
Strongly Disapprove 38

R: 19/10
D: 1/70
I: 6/31

Some other good questions as well in the poll.

[MasterJedi]

Politico got hold of the bill and the main difference seems to be giveaways to Arizona, Kentucky, and Alaska.

Pathetic. That won't buy of McCain.

If anything it could turn off teapublicans like Cruz. Completely morally bankrupt at this point.

[Blair]

Didn't Obamacare have something similar given to Louisiana to get Landrieu on board?

Regardless I doubt it working; both Collins and McCain citied that it was a host of other factors (planned parenthood ban, regular order, pre-existing conditions) that were stopping them from voting for it; it may work to help Murkowski get to yes if she's already leaning.

[BudgieForce]

Didn't Obamacare have something similar given to Louisiana to get Landrieu on board?

Regardless I doubt it working; both Collins and McCain citied that it was a host of other factors (planned parenthood ban, regular order, pre-existing conditions) that were stopping them from voting for it; it may work to help Murkowski get to yes if she's already leaning.

I distinctly remember something about a Louisianna purchase.

[Pericles]

You may be confused with the 'Cornhusker Kickback' that the got Ben Nelson to vote for it(and that Kickback didn't end up in the final bill anyway)

[The Other Castro]

Some updates from the Twitterverse:

Dave Weigel‏ @daveweigel
On call, Cruz staff says he wants to get to yes, pointing out he amended BCRA to get there. (BCRA failed with just 43 votes.)
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/912392921621712897

Laura Litvan‏ @LauraLitvan
NEW: Sen Finance Cmte Chair Hatch tells reporters it will be ‘virtually impossible’ to pass #GrahmCassidy as he heads to hearing on bill
https://twitter.com/LauraLitvan/status/912372387328512000

Manu Raju ‏@mkraju
Cassidy acknowledges the reality, tells @wolfblitzer "yes it is" when asked if "it's over" if Collins says she'll vote agains #GrahamCassidy
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/912370190318436352

Leigh Ann Caldwell‏ @LACaldwellDC
New Graham-Cassidy doesn't appease @RandPaul's concerns, says Paul spox.
https://twitter.com/LACaldwellDC/status/912317312098807808

AND:
Rand Paul is holding a press conference at 4:30 PM.
https://twitter.com/petersuderman/status/912363642074656775

[emailking]

You may be confused with the 'Cornhusker Kickback' that the got Ben Nelson to vote for it(and that Kickback didn't end up in the final bill anyway)

It was in the final bill. It was just rolled back by the reconciliation bill. Agreed it's not in the final result, if you will, but it was signed into law at one point.

[The Other Castro]

Elyse PG @elysepg
Murkowski flying from Alaska this morning, spending flight "thinking about her decision," per staff.
https://mobile.twitter.com/elysepg/status/912349714904944641

Take this one with a grain of salt:

Ben Wikler @benwikler
Friend saw @lisamurkowski at farmer's mkt in Anchorage this Sat. Asked re ACA. She looked him in the eye & said "I will not be bought off."
https://mobile.twitter.com/benwikler/status/912324082783240192

[Cactus Jack]

Elyse PG @elysepg
Murkowski flying from Alaska this morning, spending flight "thinking about her decision," per staff.
https://mobile.twitter.com/elysepg/status/912349714904944641

Take this one with a grain of salt:

Ben Wikler @benwikler
Friend saw @lisamurkowski at farmer's mkt in Anchorage this Sat. Asked re ACA. She looked him in the eye & said "I will not be bought off."
https://mobile.twitter.com/benwikler/status/912324082783240192

To think that Lisa Murkoswki, perhaps the walking personification of nepotism, has regularly showed more principle over the course of the Trump presidency than any of the Senate's "personable moderates" like Collins and Heller.

What a reality we've entered.

[The Other Castro]

Manu Raju‏ @mkraju
No softening for Rand Paul on #grahamcassidy; still a "firm no," he tells @jaketapper

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/912411909743431681?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet