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« Reply #75 on: May 19, 2017, 02:47:35 PM »

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/19/donald-trump-end-payments-obamacare-subsidies-238616
Trump said to favor move that could destabilize Obamacare
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Taking out of the equation how evil this is, this is also politically stupid. A vast majority have indicated in polling they will blame Trump for this.


And they would be right to blame Trump.
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« Reply #76 on: May 24, 2017, 11:57:15 AM »
« Edited: May 24, 2017, 12:07:08 PM by Castro »

The report is about to come out pretty soon, so as a reminder, the last version of the AHCA:

-Reduced the deficit over 10 years by $150 billion
-Increased the number of uninsured over 10 years by 24 million

There are concerns among House GOP that the most recent changes may have wiped out the deficit savings. If it is below $2 billion I believe, they may have to vote on the House bill again because it wouldn't meet the standards for reconciliation (simple majority in Senate instead of 60 votes). It is likely that we will see both lower deficit reduction numbers and lower numbers of uninsured for this new score, in comparison to the previous score. Maybe something like $50 billion reduction and 20 million more uninsured.
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« Reply #77 on: May 24, 2017, 12:13:19 PM »



McConnell on why no Ds in healthcare talks: "We're not going to waste our time talking to people who have no interest in fixing the problem"
https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/867094056089899009
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« Reply #78 on: May 24, 2017, 12:37:31 PM »

Dylan Scott thinks Mitch McConnell is setting up the bill to fail. I agree. I think the political capital to sustain the Trump Administration in the wake of revelations and the AHCA is too high. They have to pick and choose. Read the interview here.

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Referring to behind-the-scenes work among Senate Republicans on a healthcare bill, McConnell said, "I don't know how we get to 50 (votes) at the moment. But that's the goal."

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On the other hand, he said, prospects for passage of major tax legislation were "pretty good." While this too will be difficult, McConnell said, it is "not in my view quite as challenging as healthcare."
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« Reply #79 on: May 24, 2017, 01:56:38 PM »

Btw I'm guessing the score will come out around 5 or so.
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« Reply #80 on: May 24, 2017, 02:03:27 PM »

Is Gravis polling running the CBO too?
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« Reply #81 on: May 24, 2017, 03:34:51 PM »

23 million more uninsured, $113 billion deficit reduction over 10 years.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752
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« Reply #82 on: May 24, 2017, 03:36:41 PM »

23 million more uninsured, $113 billion deficit reduction over 10 years.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752

TD is right.

McConnell is setting this bill up to fail.
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« Reply #83 on: May 24, 2017, 03:37:58 PM »

so there is a reduction after all?

meaning the bill goes to the senate, eh?
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« Reply #84 on: May 24, 2017, 03:39:40 PM »

1/6th of the population will see their preexisting condition protections go away.

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« Reply #85 on: May 24, 2017, 03:41:29 PM »

Premium's will be higher under this bill than the ACA:

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« Reply #86 on: May 24, 2017, 03:42:24 PM »

Premium's will be higher under this bill than the ACA:

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Holy sh*t literally people will be paying more for less
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« Reply #87 on: May 24, 2017, 03:44:17 PM »

Christ this is terrible.
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« Reply #88 on: May 24, 2017, 03:44:47 PM »

This already screws up Trump's budget:

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« Reply #89 on: May 24, 2017, 03:45:33 PM »

freedom!

greg gutfeld spelled it out yesterday:
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« Reply #90 on: May 24, 2017, 03:47:09 PM »

Jesus.
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« Reply #91 on: May 24, 2017, 03:53:23 PM »

People, look at when major laws were passed. Look at the President's popularity at the time. And now put on top of this the investigation. Trump is at 39-55% and unable to effectively champion the AHCA or any variation of it.

This is dead in the Senate. The Republicans' best interest is to patch the law and make it work to claim credit, not pass the AHCA or anything similar to it.
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« Reply #92 on: May 24, 2017, 03:55:48 PM »

CBO clearly states those with pre-existing conditions are not protected in states that end up taking the waivers:



Another Republican lie.
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« Reply #93 on: May 24, 2017, 04:01:07 PM »

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800%!!!!!
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« Reply #94 on: May 24, 2017, 04:04:02 PM »

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« Reply #95 on: May 24, 2017, 04:10:14 PM »

Let's just hope this NEVER passes the Senate.
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« Reply #96 on: May 24, 2017, 04:12:14 PM »

Let's just hope this NEVER passes the Senate.

This will never come up to vote.

The senate may pass their own bill though.
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« Reply #97 on: May 24, 2017, 04:18:39 PM »

RIP, CBO
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« Reply #98 on: May 24, 2017, 04:20:40 PM »

why are you so sure it won't pass the senate?

baffle with BS, ryan-talk and push it through with 50 votes.
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« Reply #99 on: May 24, 2017, 04:22:27 PM »

why are you so sure it won't pass the senate?

baffle with BS, ryan-talk and push it through with 50 votes.

Because McConnell isn't dumb.

This won't get 50 votes in the senate. They will write their own bill.
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