Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

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By giving the GOP the Senate, presidency, and House, the American electorate voted for a repeal and replacement of Obamacare. Ryan's bill ain't it.

You just said the opposite of the truth. The American people voted to keep Obamacare by a 3-million-vote margin.

[Cashew]

By giving the GOP the Senate, presidency, and House, the American electorate voted for a repeal and replacement of Obamacare. Ryan's bill ain't it.

You just said the opposite of the truth. The American people voted to keep Obamacare by a 3-million-vote margin.

Yeah the buffonery we have seen since the election is nowhere near as irritating as this " we speak for the American people" falsehood. The only was such a statement can make sense is if you only consider whites "True Americans".

[Middle-aged Europe]

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Donald, listen to the other orange guy!:

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

By giving the GOP the Senate, presidency, and House, the American electorate voted for a repeal and replacement of Obamacare. Ryan's bill ain't it.

You just said the opposite of the truth. The American people voted to keep Obamacare by a 3-million-vote margin.

They should have moved to the right place like me if they cared so much.

[The Other Castro]

By giving the GOP the Senate, presidency, and House, the American electorate voted for a repeal and replacement of Obamacare. Ryan's bill ain't it.

You just said the opposite of the truth. The American people voted to keep Obamacare by a 3-million-vote margin.

They should have moved to the right place like me if they cared so much.

Honestly the DNC should put all their funding into the relocation of two million Californian Democrats to Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, and North Carolina.

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

By giving the GOP the Senate, presidency, and House, the American electorate voted for a repeal and replacement of Obamacare. Ryan's bill ain't it.

You just said the opposite of the truth. The American people voted to keep Obamacare by a 3-million-vote margin.

They should have moved to the right place like me if they cared so much.

-Bingo.

[MasterJedi]

Saw part of an interview this morning where Paul Ryan said the only people who will become uninsured will be those that don't want to purchase insurance since the government is no longer making them so it's not a bad thing.

[The Other Castro]

Update to this: A new CBO Report is coming.

Kristina L. Peterson @kristinapet
Sessions says he expects a new CBO score on the altered health bill Wednesday evening.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Update to this: A new CBO Report is coming.

Kristina L. Peterson @kristinapet
Sessions says he expects a new CBO score on the altered health bill Wednesday evening.

What new bill?

[Maxwell]

they've been ratcheting this bill up for the more conservative members - I think the CBO score will get worse.

[The Other Castro]

Update: There will be a new CBO report released tonight that includes the recent changes.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/new-cbo-score-on-changes-to-gop-healthcare-bill-expected-wednesday-night/article/2618078

[ApatheticAustrian]

freedom caucus is complaining about the vote so close after the new CBO report.

[The Other Castro]

MJ Lee‏ @mj_lee
House leadership not expecting new CBO score tonight. It's expected before House vote on the health care bill.

I guess it's not coming tonight after all.

[Devout Centrist]

MJ Lee‏ @mj_lee
House leadership not expecting new CBO score tonight. It's expected before House vote on the health care bill.

WOW

[The Other Castro]

Btw, any CBO report that comes out tomorrow will not be up to date if House Republicans add those last minute changes as concessions to the Freedom Caucus. So, they will likely be voting on a bill without a CBO score.

[All Along The Watchtower]

How many people enrolled under Obamacare?  It sounds like this is just getting us back to pre-Obamacare levels.

24 million people losing coverage is a bad thing no matter how you spin it. Obamacare should be made better and amended, not destroyed.

By "better" do you mean by raising the upper middle class's taxes more? 

We could probably get every single person in the U.S. on by simply raising taxes.  The Fed. Gov. has to make tough choices and balance everyone's interests.  Doctor's don't work for free so we simply need to find a reasonable balance.

By better I mean not stripping millions of their coverage. The AHCA is class warfare, a brutal attack on the poor, old and sick, who could lose coverage or have their premiums go up by 750%, and a giveaway to the young, rich and healthy who do not need help. Why are you even a Democrat if you support such an awful plan?

Because I was against the Iraq War.
I'm for gay marriage.
I'm sort of for abortion.
I generally believe in civil liberties.
Generally support minority rights.
Generally against a police state.
I'm ok with reasonable environmental regulations.
I don't like Donald Trump's attack on the media.

Though, this board does make me question why I am a Democrat.  I find most of the democrats here to espouse pretty pathetic political views.  It's sad that we have such crappy political choices in this country.

Re: the Obamacare/AHCA thing.  I support going back to what we had before this Obamacare mess started... a position that was fine for a long time in this country.

"people are dying but muh taxes are too high so idk if we should help them out"

[The Other Castro]

NEW CBO Report on revised AHCA:

Coverage and Premiums are nearly unchanged, deficit savings reduced from $337 Billion to $150 Billion.

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/115th-congress-2017-2018/costestimate/hr1628.pdf

[Hindsight was 2020]

NEW CBO Report on revised AHCA:

Coverage and Premiums are nearly unchanged, deficit savings reduced from $337 Billion to $150 Billion.

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/115th-congress-2017-2018/costestimate/hr1628.pdf

So it's worse XD

[Ebowed]

NEW CBO Report on revised AHCA:

Coverage and Premiums are nearly unchanged, deficit savings reduced from $337 Billion to $150 Billion.

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/115th-congress-2017-2018/costestimate/hr1628.pdf

This is what happens when you negotiate with terrorists.

Good thing the public so overwhelmingly opposes this.  Trump is out there pushing a bill to kill millions of people just so that he can get a tax cut.  What a champion of the working class!

[The Other Castro]

"CBO to release estimate for House-passed version of the AHCA early in the week of May 22"

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52715

[ProudModerate2]

"CBO to release estimate for House-passed version of the AHCA early in the week of May 22"

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52715

Should be interesting.
I wonder how much energy trump will put on trying to dismantle the CBO (though he cant).

[The Other Castro]

New report will come May 24.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52740

[Confused Democrat]

New report will come May 24.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52740

It's going to get real ugly for congressional Republicans when that report drops.

[I Won - Get Over It]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/19/donald-trump-end-payments-obamacare-subsidies-238616
Trump said to favor move that could destabilize Obamacare

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[Gass3268]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/19/donald-trump-end-payments-obamacare-subsidies-238616
Trump said to favor move that could destabilize Obamacare

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Taking out of the equation how evil this is, this is also politically stupid. A vast majority have indicated in polling they will blame Trump for this.