Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

[Santander]

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[Gustaf]

I have trouble seeing the bipartisan thing that would happen. Anything good enough to woo some moderate Dems seems like it would really enrage the conservatives.

[The Mikado]

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JUST IN: McConnell announces "the Senate will delay the start of the August recess until the third week of August.”


...Wow. I never thought I'd see the day...as far as I can tell this is the first time in nearly 40 years that Congress has sat in August.

This is a pretty desperate maneuver.

[The_Doctor]

They don't have the votes. They delayed the beginning of the recess by two weeks, if I'm reading right. Will they have the votes?

I'd say 95% No. Lindsey Graham's statement definitely suggests that there is a measure afoot to stabilize the law.

[The Mikado]

We know how this plays out: McConnell releases terrible legislation on Thursday, on Monday/Tuesday CBO score comes out and fence-waverers announce they're still wavering, and McConnell delays for another two weeks to try again.

He's totally lost Collins and Heller (no matter what Mike Pence says, Heller is clinging to Sandoval for dear life as cover for his reelection and Sandoval has been unerringly critical of the bill), and the backbiting over various special favors and minute points will drag this out indefinitely.

Also, if he really is leaving the ACA taxes in place as rumored, the House Freedom Caucus is going to have a serious issue with this bill once it gets bounced back House side.

[The Other Castro]

I doubt McConnell goes for another delay after this. If it looks like it won't pass a procedural vote, he'll probably pull it and maybe go for a small bipartisan bill to stabilize the markets a bit. Even if McConnell can get almost everyone on board (a mighty challenge in itself), it's just really hard to see how he brings on Heller, Collins, and Paul. One way or another, we're moving on sooner rather than later.

[Yank2133]

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They have been close to a deal for three weeks now.

[Gass3268]

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Unless Heller makes a pretty big shift from a couple weeks ago, I struggle to see how the Republicans get 50.

[Person Man]

So the best they can do is get this in front of Pence. But first they must get by SMC, Portman, Murkowski, and Heller.

[The Mikado]

Rand Paul writes brutal editorial in Breitbart accusing GOP of keeping Obamacrare with this bill.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/12/exclusive-sen-rand-paul-senate-gop-decides-keep-obamacare/amp/

This is about as clear a No as you get.

[Brittain33]

Rand Paul writes brutal editorial in Breitbart accusing GOP of keeping Obamacrare with this bill.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/12/exclusive-sen-rand-paul-senate-gop-decides-keep-obamacare/amp/

This is about as clear a No as you get.

Joe Lieberman: "Amateur."

[The Mikado]

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"We remain in the same camp. Fundamentally, they haven’t changed the bill.” -- @SenDeanHeller on new GOP effort.

Heller, Collins, and Paul all still nos on bill.

[The Other Castro]

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"We remain in the same camp. Fundamentally, they haven’t changed the bill.” -- @SenDeanHeller on new GOP effort.

Heller, Collins, and Paul all still nos on bill.

And if there are three nos, there are going to be either 12+ nos or a pulled bill.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Trump warns if HC bill fails he will be "very angry" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H3LzeR-m1x8&ebc=ANyPxKopQ72P_WjX0OFt_vxkmSzdsw2HJ5AHDHGzPGrbs7YqARarOytCMB0RJ2dq4FDjjw8TLjBuUceaMmMQSUgR9KMl8I2IGw

[Koharu]

Trump warns if HC bill fails he will be "very angry" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H3LzeR-m1x8&ebc=ANyPxKopQ72P_WjX0OFt_vxkmSzdsw2HJ5AHDHGzPGrbs7YqARarOytCMB0RJ2dq4FDjjw8TLjBuUceaMmMQSUgR9KMl8I2IGw

Oh noo, we can't make Trump angry! Woe!

🙄🙄🙄🙄

Mr. Toddler-in-Chief, most of the country, and especially senators, couldn't possibly care less if you're angry. Trolling tweets make you angry, and your anger is very nearly impotent at this point. Your base is always angry, and I don't think you can inflame them any more on this issue.

[The Mikado]

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/341197-wva-republican-if-i-have-to-be-that-one-person-to-kill-healthcare-bill-i-will

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Mondale, you there?

[Person Man]

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/341197-wva-republican-if-i-have-to-be-that-one-person-to-kill-healthcare-bill-i-will

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Mondale, you there?

If Mondale is right, I think we found our Cuck of the Year.

[The Other Castro]

Mike Lee says the Cruz-Lee amendment will not be in the bill, but something based on it will be.

[SoLongAtlas]

McConnell to release new GOP health plan allowing bare-bones insurance policies

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/mcconnell-to-release-new-gop-health-plan-allowing-bare-bones-insurance-policies/2017/07/13/8f0509c4-67bb-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?utm_term=.2c644db56922#comments

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Slim plans to "cut costs" but dry the funding for overall risk pools to a shriveling husk. Makes sense because of "freedooooommmm!!" Sometimes I wonder if the ppl putting together this bill have any grasp of risk pool basic math.


Live shot analogy look at McConnell's (Cruz's) plan if coverage was a car

[SoLongAtlas]

Seven years of planning to repeal and replace and nothing substantive to show for it. At this point, I think even some die-hard conservatives would vote Dem next year due to the sheer ineptitude.

[Santander]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/13/politics/lindsey-graham-bill-cassidy-health-care-plan/index.html

Lindsey Graham proposes block granting Obamacare tax revenues to the states, and said on CNN that "it's pretty hard to take money from the poor to give to the rich" regarding the politics of Obamacare repeal.

[Virginiá]

http://ijr.com/2017/07/919440-senate-republicans-considering-alternative-scoring-cruz-amendment-instead-waiting-cbo/

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This kind of decision-making is, imo, pretty emblematic of McConnell himself. He is too willing to burn down the house to score short-term political victories, and honestly rules more like a monarch. Traditions, rules and institutions are only good so long as they validate his agenda and do not get in his way.

So far the only thing he doesn't really seem to want to get rid of is the legislative filibuster, and that is more out of fear than anything else.

[Yank2133]

If this bill goes down, I expect more then 3 no's

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