Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

[Indy Texas]

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Win at all cost.

I don't understand what that even means. Trump has made zero effort to sell this bill to the public.

Why isn't he holding events telling people how great it's going to be? Why isn't he doing something reasonably approximating effort to make the bill less terrible?

He's like a fat middle aged man yelling at the TV while watching a football game as professional athletes execute plays he has no ability to do himself.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Has anyone noticed that no Senator has come out in opposition to the BCA on the basis of the Cruz Amendment?

[The Other Castro]

I'm surprised we haven't gotten another "courageous" statement yet from an additional Senator coming out in opposition to the bill.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I'm surprised we haven't gotten another "courageous" statement yet from an additional Senator coming out in opposition to the bill.

Such as Dean Heller

[Yank2133]

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Delusional.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

#repealanddelay is a very poor strategically economically. Republicans  know this because they rejected that strategy in February, and nothing has changed since then.

[The Other Castro]

Repeal and Replace later wouldn't get 40 votes.

[swf541]

I think alot of people on here are looking at this the wrong way...Lee and Moron are using this as leverage to push Trumpcare even further to the right because they expect the moderates will cave. If the so called moderates didnt speak up last week then they know they could probably cuck some more demands out of them.

McCain seems to be a no, just called for the Senate to start over and hold open meetings

Graham is also calling to start over

[swf541]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/887136449790976000
McCain statement linked here

[swf541]

I think alot of people on here are looking at this the wrong way...Lee and Moron are using this as leverage to push Trumpcare even further to the right because they expect the moderates will cave. If the so called moderates didnt speak up last week then they know they could probably cuck some more demands out of them.

McCain seems to be a no, just called for the Senate to start over and hold open meetings

Graham is also calling to start over

I dont think they can start over...they basically have a month and a half till the window for reconciliation closes and McCain's neurosurgeon says he'll be out for weeks

Exactly its looking pretty dead atm

[swf541]

Actually Trump voters i know didnt want this to pass either and were blaming congress for trying to give him a bad bill

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I think alot of people on here are looking at this the wrong way...Lee and Moron are using this as leverage to push Trumpcare even further to the right because they expect the moderates will cave. If the so called moderates didnt speak up last week then they know they could probably cuck some more demands out of them.

McCain seems to be a no, just called for the Senate to start over and hold open meetings

Graham is also calling to start over

I dont think they can start over...they basically have a month and a half till the window for reconciliation closes and McCain's neurosurgeon says he'll be out for weeks

A bipartisan bill, which is what Graham and McCain want, would be passed under the normal legislative process, with at least 60 votes.

[GeorgiaModerate]

MIND BLOWN:

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Well, there you have it.  Trump trucked it all up.

[The Other Castro]

Jesus Christ Wtf



The absolute madman!

[Virginiá]

Well, there you have it.  Trump trucked it all up.

I'm starting to see a strategy in all this madness: Every time there is a bad Republican-sponsored bill Democrats really need to kill, just bring a truck to the White House and let Trump play around with it. Instant legislative death will be dealt.

[The_Doctor]

I will now like to say I told you so: I predicted this all along and have done so since November. As I said now, we move onto this "failed" vote of a straight up repeal. Unless something magical happens between now and then, ObamaCare is now the law of the land and Schumer now holds the trump cards in negotiations.

Also a straight up repeal, I believe, requires 60 votes. Even if it didn't, it doesn't have 50 votes. 

[Rookie Yinzer]

Trump is such a bumbling idiot. He has no grasp of what the bill will even do he is just obsessed with optics.

[KingSweden]

This is the kill shot. McConnell is burying the bill. It doesn't have 50 votes in the Senate because CBO scored it. It performs even worse.

The repeal is dead. Now we play kabuki theater to the inevitable bipartisan dance of shoring up ObamaCare.

(Or, hat tip, if you read my timeline, yeah, you would know this 6 months ahead of time more or less).

I am impressed, my friend. You seriously need to tell me the winning lotto numbers since you haven't been wrong yet

[The Other Castro]

What McConnell is calling for is a vote on the 2015 repeal bill that the CBO previously found would lead to 32 million more uninsured people over 10 years.

[Yank2133]

Mitch wants to show the base a body.

[The Other Castro]

I will now like to say I told you so: I predicted this all along and have done so since November. As I said now, we move onto this "failed" vote of a straight up repeal. Unless something magical happens between now and then, ObamaCare is now the law of the land and Schumer now holds the trump cards in negotiations.

Also a straight up repeal, I believe, requires 60 votes. Even if it didn't, it doesn't have 50 votes.  

You sure about that?...I don't exactly see any moderates coming out with statements.

It's like 11 at night and McConnell just put this statement out half an hour ago. There is a 0% chance this comes at all close to passing. I doubt it even comes to a vote.

[Yank2133]

I will now like to say I told you so: I predicted this all along and have done so since November. As I said now, we move onto this "failed" vote of a straight up repeal. Unless something magical happens between now and then, ObamaCare is now the law of the land and Schumer now holds the trump cards in negotiations.

Also a straight up repeal, I believe, requires 60 votes. Even if it didn't, it doesn't have 50 votes.  

You sure about that?...I don't exactly see any moderates coming out with statements.

It's like 11 at night and McConnell just put this statement out half an hour ago. There is a 0% chance this comes at all close to passing. I doubt it even comes to a vote.

All it takes is 50 votes and the vote is in 2 days

They will be lucky to get 30.

[Hindsight was 2020]

So if it passes they get killed in 2018 and if it fails they get killed in 2018. Go for it

[Yank2133]

Also, I am not even sure they can do a clean repeal under reconciliation. If I am correct, then they need 60, which means this thing is deader then Kelsey's nuts.

[Yank2133]

I will now like to say I told you so: I predicted this all along and have done so since November. As I said now, we move onto this "failed" vote of a straight up repeal. Unless something magical happens between now and then, ObamaCare is now the law of the land and Schumer now holds the trump cards in negotiations.

Also a straight up repeal, I believe, requires 60 votes. Even if it didn't, it doesn't have 50 votes.  

You sure about that?...I don't exactly see any moderates coming out with statements.

It's like 11 at night and McConnell just put this statement out half an hour ago. There is a 0% chance this comes at all close to passing. I doubt it even comes to a vote.

All it takes is 50 votes and the vote is in 2 days

They will be lucky to get 30.

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Easy to vote yes when you know the President would veto it.