Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

This whole thing is a sh*tshow.

[The Mikado]

What the f**k is wrong with these people? They're leaving a string of quotes about how terrible this bill is while voting for it. This is really, really bad politics.

Hell, given that Trump will inevitably disown this the second it becomes unpopular, Lindsey Graham especially is opening himself up to a primary challenge in 2020 with ads saying "Lindsey Graham voted for legislation he himself said was a disaster and which has since ruined the lives of X South Carolinians." Lindsey Graham has to know that in the Trump era, Trump will throw the GOP Congress under the bus for the effects of this legislation in a heartbeat because he doesn't give a s**t about them.

[BudgieForce]

They're gonna vote for it but they're not gonna like it(except they will like it and just dont want to admit it).

[The Other Castro]

This would be the dumbest possible move for Congressional Republicans if they do pass a "skinny repeal". It doesn't repeal Obamacare, ensures higher costs, increases the likelihood of a death spiral, and places any blame for healthcare problems on themselves.

[The Mikado]

This would be the dumbest possible move for Congressional Republicans if they do pass a "skinny repeal". It doesn't repeal Obamacare, ensures higher costs, increases the likelihood of a death spiral, and places any blame for healthcare problems on themselves.

Also doesn't cut taxes except the Medical Device Tax.

Also doesn't cut Medicaid.

[The Other Castro]

This would be the dumbest possible move for Congressional Republicans if they do pass a "skinny repeal". It doesn't repeal Obamacare, ensures higher costs, increases the likelihood of a death spiral, and places any blame for healthcare problems on themselves.

Also doesn't cut taxes except the Medical Device Tax.

Also doesn't cut Medicaid.

According to reports of recent drafts, it doesn't even repeal the medical device tax.

[tallguy23]

This would be the dumbest possible move for Congressional Republicans if they do pass a "skinny repeal". It doesn't repeal Obamacare, ensures higher costs, increases the likelihood of a death spiral, and places any blame for healthcare problems on themselves.

Also doesn't cut taxes except the Medical Device Tax.

Also doesn't cut Medicaid.

According to reports of recent drafts, it doesn't even repeal the medical device tax.

So what the hell is gonna be in this? Just a mandate repeal?

[KingSweden]

The GOP proves yet again it is not a Conservative party, it is a collection of preening buffoons

[Statilius the Epicurean]

This would be the dumbest possible move for Congressional Republicans if they do pass a "skinny repeal". It doesn't repeal Obamacare, ensures higher costs, increases the likelihood of a death spiral, and places any blame for healthcare problems on themselves.

Also doesn't cut taxes except the Medical Device Tax.

Also doesn't cut Medicaid.

According to reports of recent drafts, it doesn't even repeal the medical device tax.

I thought the whole point of repealing Obamacare was to make tax reform easier. Jfc.

[Yank2133]

This would be the dumbest possible move for Congressional Republicans if they do pass a "skinny repeal". It doesn't repeal Obamacare, ensures higher costs, increases the likelihood of a death spiral, and places any blame for healthcare problems on themselves.

Also doesn't cut taxes except the Medical Device Tax.

Also doesn't cut Medicaid.

According to reports of recent drafts, it doesn't even repeal the medical device tax.

So what the hell is gonna be in this? Just a mandate repeal?

Pretty much.

The funny thing is that this is going to backfire. You repeal the mandate and claim you "repealed" Obamacare. But what the hell can you say next year when people lose coverage and there is 20% premium hike?

[SoLongAtlas]

Graham calls the skinny repeal a "half-assed approach" at the presser, video on CNN. Good on him.

[Mr. Morden]

If they really just want to get to conference, there's no reason they couldn't just pass an empty shell of a bill that has no meaningful policy implications.  That way they don't have to worry about the House "tricking them" by passing it without a conference, since passing it without a conference wouldn't really do anything.

[Middle-aged Europe]

The GOP just needs to dissolve itself. There's just no point to it anymore.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Question: On the Motion (Motion to Waive All Applicable Budgetary Discipline Re: Strange Amdt. No. 389 )

Required For Majority: 3/5

Statement of Purpose: To provide for premium assistance for low-income individuals.

Vote Result: Motion Rejected

YEAs ---50
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Capito (R-WV)
Cassidy (R-LA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Cotton (R-AR)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Daines (R-MT)
Enzi (R-WY)
Ernst (R-IA)
Fischer (R-NE)
Flake (R-AZ)
Gardner (R-CO)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kennedy (R-LA)
Lankford (R-OK)
Lee (R-UT)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Perdue (R-GA)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rounds (R-SD)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sasse (R-NE)
Scott (R-SC)
Shelby (R-AL)
Strange (R-AL)
Sullivan (R-AK)
Thune (R-SD)
Tillis (R-NC)
Toomey (R-PA)
Wicker (R-MS)
Young (R-IN)

NAYs ---50
Baldwin (D-WI)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Booker (D-NJ)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Collins (R-ME)
Coons (D-DE)
Cortez Masto (D-NV)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Duckworth (D-IL)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harris (D-CA)
Hassan (D-NH)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Hirono (D-HI)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Leahy (D-VT)
Manchin (D-WV)
Markey (D-MA)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murphy (D-CT)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Peters (D-MI)
Reed (D-RI)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Udall (D-NM)
Van Hollen (D-MD)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

[SoLongAtlas]

Can someone tell me why the Dems are shooting down good amendments? Pure partisanship or strategy?

[Person Man]

Can someone tell me why the Dems are shooting down good amendments? Pure partisanship or strategy?

The last one was just a nuclear option to ram through changes to medicaid.

[Santander]

Brian Schlub speaking now. What a waste of oxygen.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Brian Schlub speaking now. What a waste of oxygen.

Remind me again how you are a Democrat?

[Santander]

Brian Schlub speaking now. What a waste of oxygen.

Remind me again how you are a Democrat?

One of those proud old school racist Deep South ones of course

Upper South*

[Person Man]

Brian Schlub speaking now. What a waste of oxygen.

Remind me again how you are a Democrat?

One of those proud old school racist Deep South ones of course

Upper South*

The South. I thought he was a British Orphan originally.

[ProudModerate2]

Can someone please post here when the voting starts (or is about to start) for the "skinny" bill.
Thank you.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Can someone please post here when the voting starts (or is about to start) for the "skinny" bill.
Thank you.

No one knows when it will start. Follow https://twitter.com/senategopfloor for the latest.

[Santander]

Dean Heller's Cadillac tax repeal amendment is on the floor now.

[Thomas D]

Steven Dennis
@StevenTDennis
*MCCAIN: RYAN LETTER "NOT SUFFICIENT"

[The Other Castro]

Steven Dennis
@StevenTDennis
*MCCAIN: RYAN LETTER "NOT SUFFICIENT"

That's three Nos if Collins and Murkowski go No as well.