Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

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If this bill should fail, how far would a repeal-only option get in either chamber, particularly the House? 

Considering how many times in the past they have voted to repeal (and not replace) Obamacare, I would think they'd at least give this option a try just to get it out of their system. 

Personally I think it would not go far at all, now that they actually have someone in the White House willing to sign it into law.   

[Frodo]

I doubt McConnell intends to actually pass a 2015 repeal bill. This is all a gambit on his part to get a passing MTP vote. If a MTP passes, it doesn't mean they're going to pass something, but it means McConnell lives to fight another day on healthcare and GOP senators face greatly increased pressure. His tactic is probably to convince Paul, Lee, and Moran that they are voting on the 2015 repeal, and convince Murkowski and Capito that they are voting on BCRA 2.0. I believe the only current overlap in public opposition to both is Collins. It's a lot of ifs, but the perfect mixture of malice, gullibility, arrogance, and ignorance could provide a passing vote on the MTP.

What does MTP stand for? 

[Frodo]

It's a start.

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Trump has officially given up:

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Beautiful -as soon as a law is passed by this Congress (and signed by this President) stabilizing Obamacare and sets it on a path toward it truly 'bending the cost curve', then we will know this law has gained a status on par with Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.   

[Frodo]

House Speaker Paul Ryan and Donald Trump have rejected any bipartisan fix to Obamacare:

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/19/obamacare-stabilization-bill-status-242875

[Frodo]

House Speaker Paul Ryan and Donald Trump have rejected any bipartisan fix to Obamacare:

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/19/obamacare-stabilization-bill-status-242875

The GOP chairman of the healthcare effort concurs.

[Frodo]

Politico got hold of the bill and the main difference seems to be giveaways to Arizona, Kentucky, and Alaska.

They should just bring back earmarks already.

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Republicans are privately admitting that perhaps Obamacare is here to stay, after all.  Assuming it survives Trump's attempts to sabotage it, that is:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/09/republicans-obamacare-repeal-defeat-admit-243551

[Frodo]

Alexander and Murray have reached a short-term agreement on stabilizing the ACA markets. Now we will know for sure how serious the GOP really are about this (hint. they aren't.)

https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/920348069132165120

Now we do:

Another last-ditch effort to tackle Obamacare stalls within hours of its release