Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

[Don Vito Corleone]

So then, that has to be the end of any ACA repeal efforts by the GOP, right?
To my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, they have to either:
A) Get 8 votes from the Democrats in order to reach 60 votes
B) Cut the sections that the Parliamentarian deems to violate the Byrd Rule, which as pointed out earlier, would probably not pass the house.
I really don't see either of those happening.

[Don Vito Corleone]

^They don't even have the luxury of THAT being what they have to argue about. First they have to pass the motion to even begin debate, and that motion has had at least three NO votes for BCRA 1, BCRA 2, and full repeal. McConnell is probably just hoping that, with all the confusion on what they're actually voting to start debate on, the fence sitting senators can be persuaded with individual concessions. It doesn't really matter whether they're voting on full repeal or the BCRA, as both paths lead through the transformative jungle of vote-a-rama, providing a completely different end result.

Begin debate on what?

[Don Vito Corleone]

So, what do you think the odds are that no Obamacare replacement is passed before the Midterms?

[Don Vito Corleone]

CBO scored "skinny" repeal...

https://twitter.com/kasie/status/890359137531551744

16 million uninsured, 20% increase in premiums each year.

Does "skinny repeal" also have a 2 year delay?

[Don Vito Corleone]

Can someone please post here when the voting starts (or is about to start) for the "skinny" bill.
Thank you.

9:30 PM

Is that vote a Motion to proceed or an actual bill? And if it's a bill, do we (and more importantly, do the people doing the voting) know what is being voted on.

[Don Vito Corleone]

Where can I watch the vote happen?

[Don Vito Corleone]

MCCAIN VOTED NO!
THE BILL IS DEAD, THE BILL IS DEAD!

[Don Vito Corleone]

Politically, is it better for the GOP that this bill didn't pass and they don't have to deal with the massive downsides of Skinny Repeal?

[Don Vito Corleone]

So does McConnell seriously plan on passing this in 12 days, or is he just doing this to show the base he tried the best he could to repeal Obamacare?

[Don Vito Corleone]

So does this mean Murkowski is a no as well?

I can't see a scenario where McCain votes no and Murkowski votes yes.

[Don Vito Corleone]

I'm actually amazed Murkowski hasn't come out against this bill yet, and never did I even once think that John McCain would come out in opposition to it before Murkowswki did.

[Don Vito Corleone]

I'm actually amazed Murkowski hasn't come out against this bill yet, and never did I even once think that John McCain would come out in opposition to it before Murkowswki did.

She never technically came out aagainst skinny repeal either f.y.i.

But every breakdown of where the Senators stood ahead of the vote I ever saw (on atlas or off) had Murkowski as a strong no.

[Don Vito Corleone]

Why did all the x's in "reply number x" get reduced by ~ 30?

EDIT: Wait, they just got reduced further. Now they are ~ 200 lower then they were a few hours ago. What's going on?

[Don Vito Corleone]

Ummmmmmmmm



Patrick Svitek‏ @PatrickSvitek
@TedCruz on #GrahamCassidy: “Right now they don’t have my vote, and I don’t think they have Mike Lee’s either." #TribFest17

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/911964825076600832

I'll believe it when I see it.

[Don Vito Corleone]

Bill Cassidy says they'll be replacing GC with yet another bill tomorrow: https://twitter.com/abcpolitics/status/911958582811295744

Whatever the new bill is, it's not passing. Murkowski and Collins will oppose it on ideological grounds (and what does it say about the GOP that I can tell any healthcare bill they propose will be cruel before it's even unveiled?), as will McCain on procedural grounds.

[Don Vito Corleone]

Haha. ANOTHER new bill? Written in the space of a few days with zero input from key GOP votes nor the other party? This is hilarious and sad.

If my assumption that they started writing this new bill after McCain said he would vote no is correct, then the GOP wrote a bill concerning healthcare, perhaps the most sensitive, delicate, and important topic in politics today, in 48 hours.

[Don Vito Corleone]

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https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/912438863611691008

Who are the other two?

[Don Vito Corleone]

So is this year's 50-vote barrier bill wasted?  And next year will be for tax cuts? 

Barring a last-minute miracle, yes for this year.

There has been some talk about trying to combine both tax reform and health care in a single reconciliation bill next year.  Not that trying to do two difficult things at once is going to be any easier than doing them separately.

The only thing that's going to accomplish will be sinking Tax Reform.

[Don Vito Corleone]

And so it died, not with a bang but with a whimper.

I honestly would have preferred it if it went to a floor vote and was defeated like the Skinny Repeal.