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Gustaf
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« on: July 11, 2017, 11:15:33 AM »

I have trouble seeing the bipartisan thing that would happen. Anything good enough to woo some moderate Dems seems like it would really enrage the conservatives.
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2017, 08:29:06 AM »

So it's in 4 hours?
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2017, 10:31:40 AM »

Isn't a fairly reasonable possibility that none of the Republican senators want to go into recess having done *nothing* to uphold their repeal promise and doing this allows them all to tout a vote they can defend without anything really passing?

Rand Paul seems to basically be saying that he'd like to cast a clean repeal vote so he can say that he did, even though he knows full well that won't pass. Maybe that's what they're all doing.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2017, 03:38:15 AM »

Wow, I just woke up and... McCain did the right thing and stood up against the GOP?

Yup and it also seems like he deliberately did it in a way to humiliate them thoroughly, wrecking it last minute when they thought they had the votes.

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2017, 06:50:51 AM »

Is it actually dead?
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2017, 03:28:59 AM »

One thing that strikes me as odd is this  - they lost last time essentially because McCain was upset with the lack of bipartisanship and decided to f**k them. So their solution this time is to publicly give the middle finger to bipartisanship to put pressure on people? Like, it doesn't seem like the ideal design for that end.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2017, 09:32:47 AM »

It's important to remember that there is no real mainstream Republican position on healthcare and thus no Republican plan.

The mainstream Republican position on healthcare is that people who cannot afford healthcare should still get healthcare and that no one should have to pay for someone else's healthcare because that is un-American socialism.

Since this is logically impossible they have no actual policy. They can't propose any better plan since no plan can satisfy their requirements.

Even the GOP eventually can't just run against basic logic.
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