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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,208
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« on: July 17, 2017, 09:13:48 PM »

Has anyone noticed that no Senator has come out in opposition to the BCA on the basis of the Cruz Amendment?
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,208
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2017, 03:54:40 PM »

What is the whip count for even starting debate at this point?  Do they even have a bill with 50 votes?

They said they don't know the whip count


So, they are just voting to open up debate with no bill in mind, just to say "We want something to be done".

At this point McConnell just wants to hold a vote. If it passes, great. If it fails, it brings closure to the issue and allows the senate to move on.

Basically, just a vote on whether or not to continue negotiations or give up?

Yes

So does this vote require 60 or 50?
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,208
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2017, 04:33:05 PM »

What is the whip count for even starting debate at this point?  Do they even have a bill with 50 votes?

They said they don't know the whip count


So, they are just voting to open up debate with no bill in mind, just to say "We want something to be done".

At this point McConnell just wants to hold a vote. If it passes, great. If it fails, it brings closure to the issue and allows the senate to move on.

Basically, just a vote on whether or not to continue negotiations or give up?

Yes

So does this vote require 60 or 50?

As it will be on a bill that falls within reconciliation, 50.

I was under the impression that full repeal didn't fall within the rules of reconciliation, as some aspects of Obamacare didn't have to do with budget. I'm confused as hell about what this motion to proceed is even regarding.
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,208
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2017, 01:44:22 PM »

Heller is gonna get Blanched. And it'll be so satisfying.
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,208
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2017, 01:24:08 PM »

The useless GOP at it again:

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Moving forward on Graham's plan is impossible without McConnell gutting the legislative filibuster, which he won't. Skinny repeal was their last chance this fiscal year. You can only use the reconciliation process in a certain subject/policy area once a year. So unless they decide to revisit their unpopular health care reform literally in the weeks leading up to their midterms with an already unpopular incumbent president, Graham-Cassidy-Heller is dead in the water.
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