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« on: May 10, 2017, 05:52:44 PM »

"CBO to release estimate for House-passed version of the AHCA early in the week of May 22"

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52715

Should be interesting.
I wonder how much energy trump will put on trying to dismantle the CBO (though he cant).
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2017, 05:01:03 PM »

If these s***ty bills keep getting proposed with no changes, I will start saying "F*** it. Keep damn Obamacare"

For the love of God, GOP, get a good bill

LOL.
You just don't get it TheSaint ..... the GOP considers this (and the House's version) as a "good bill." You just don't want to admit that the GOP will kill (make ill) so many people.
Get a grip ..... this is who they are !
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2017, 06:15:42 PM »
« Edited: June 26, 2017, 06:28:43 PM by ProudModerate2 »

As the bill stands right now, I think it will fail.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2017, 04:06:12 PM »

If this is still a valid idea after they return from their July 4th recess, I see more Rep Senators jumping-ship, not less.
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2017, 06:25:09 PM »

According to a Trump adviser, Trump had no idea that Medicaid and Medicare were 2 separate programs. He thought they were the same thing.

God help us.

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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2017, 06:35:14 PM »

According to a Trump adviser, Trump had no idea that Medicaid and Medicare were 2 separate programs. He thought they were the same thing.

EnglishPete?  Naso?  Sanchez?  Thomas Jackson?  Defend this because I'd love to see how such blatant goddamn ignorance can be spun in a positive light.

Oh don't challenge them.
They can absolutely "spin" it.
But whether you and I fall for their bs, is entirely a different matter.
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2017, 05:16:56 PM »

It seems that TrumpDeath Insurance bill(s) averted.
Keep your fingers crossed.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2017, 06:01:08 PM »

Video :
Wacky trump voter now says that TrumpCare insurance will take her meds away that she needs because of sever bipolar condition.
She then goes on to explain that if health care is removed from so many people, that it will be like a 'zombie apocalypse.'
I think this woman (like many other Deplorables) has gone ... Too-Cuckoo-for-Cocoa-Puffs.

Video Link : http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/07/13/trump-voters-6-months-panel-health-care-camerota-newday.cnn


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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2017, 01:13:16 PM »

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This administration is a ****ing clown show.

Go on Mike Pence's twitter...its like an alternate reality with sociopathic levels of lying

I have read in various sites some of what Pence is saying out there.
It is beyond imagination. How TrumpCare (more like TrumpDeath) Insurance will help (not hurt) so many on Medicaid. Complete Hogwash !
Sounds like stuff some "English" dude would say.
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2017, 01:27:37 AM »

The longer the bill is delayed, the more of a chance that Senators will be pressured to vote NO.
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2017, 09:41:58 AM »

Sen Collins (R-ME) basically calls VP Pence a liar about how TrumpDeath Insurance will strengthen Medicaid.
Watch the interview on video here :
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/07/16/sotu-collins-takes-issue-with-pence-on-medicaid.cnn
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2017, 09:47:29 AM »

It seems that McCain's blood clot may have been more significant than first thought.
Dr Gupta (CNN) describes how the doctors had to open (cut) the bone to gain access to the brain.
Ouch !
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/17/health/mccain-blood-clot-surgery-significant-bn/index.html
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2017, 08:25:08 PM »

The GOP is a disaster.
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2017, 08:49:05 PM »

So I'm guessing Trump acted like an ass at the meeting tonight?

Would not doubt it.
That's probably why Sens. Jerry Moran of Kansas and Mike Lee of Utah decided not to support the bill. trump probably acted like an a**hole, maybe even threatened all the Senators, and they are now basically giving him the middle finger.
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2017, 11:22:51 PM »

Trump is such a bumbling idiot. He has no grasp of what the bill will even do he is just obsessed with optics.

There are probably many Republican members in The House and some Republican Senators who also fall into this category.
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2017, 11:18:55 AM »

Collins is also a no.
This thing is dead at the moment with McCain being out.

I have a feeling there will be more No's to come.
This repeal only idea is not going to work.
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2017, 01:43:32 PM »


Love it !
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2017, 02:09:05 PM »


So according to this just released article, the current No's (total of 4) are 3 definite, and 1 other vote that is more than likely also No :
Senators Susan Collins of Maine, Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska.
Senator Rob Portman of Ohio hinted strongly that he too would oppose it.
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2017, 02:29:45 PM »
« Edited: July 18, 2017, 02:32:43 PM by ProudModerate2 »

Sarah Huckabee Sanders won't even say definitively that Trump would sign repeal-only legislation if it were to somehow pass:

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/887386150003978241

That is hilarious. McConnell just said this morning on the Senate floor that "President trump will sign it now."
So which is it ?
Who is the one looking like a fool ? McConnell, trump or both ?
At first, I thought only the administration was looking like a clownish circus. But it seems that the GOP in Congress decided to join The Big Top.
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2017, 07:51:45 PM »

McConnell refuses to pull the plug on stalled Obamacare repeal plan ....

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2017, 11:33:02 AM »

Happening right now ...

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What will come out of this ? What do you think ?
Will there be a food fight ? What style of food will be on trump's face, and which Senator threw it ? (have some fun, and make your guess)
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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2017, 12:38:43 PM »

Trump may have just directed a thinly veiled threat towards Heller.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KThomasDC/status/887719014138601472
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Trump, sitting next to Heller, "He wants to remain senator, doesn't he?"

Trump is a dumbass who cant do anything but dish out threats and insults...hence why he's a lousy leader

And then trump wonders why so many Americans detest his entire existence.
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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2017, 12:51:30 PM »

Update per CNN ...

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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2017, 12:56:22 PM »

At least he's not on board with just a flat-out repeal.
But they should move to tax reform now.

Are you sure "he's not on board with just a flat-out repeal" ?
Didn't he say just last week that we should just repeal now, and worry about replace later ?
He flip-flops so much, zombie trumpists are so confused they don't know what policy position to support, because they cant say anything that contradicts their Fuhrer.
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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2017, 06:29:31 PM »

Actually it just came out:

"Obamacare Repeal Reconciliation Act of 2017"
-32 million more uninsured over 10 years
-Premiums doubled over 10 years

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52939

Those are huge numbers !
I cant see how the GOP can move forward with their idea, with these estimates disclosed by the CBO.
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