Christian Socialism and the Religious left

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

We dont need William Jennings Bryan Ted Cruz type politicians now more than ever

Fixed again. . (Though WJB would be an excellent improvement over traditional Dems).

In a party system that pitted WJB-type Dems against Bloomberg-type Reps, which party would you be inclined to vote for?

Yuck. Come on, aren't there any better examples of secular somewhat socially liberalish right wingers?

The point is to propose the least popular. What would you prefer? Lincoln Chafee? Rudy Giuliani?

[Goldwater]

We dont need William Jennings Bryan Ted Cruz type politicians now more than ever

Fixed again. . (Though WJB would be an excellent improvement over traditional Dems).

In a party system that pitted WJB-type Dems against Bloomberg-type Reps, which party would you be inclined to vote for?

Yuck. Come on, aren't there any better examples of secular somewhat socially liberalish right wingers?

The point is to propose the worst. What would you prefer? Lincoln Chafee? Rudy Giuliani?

...You know, I'm having a hard time thinking of anybody I actually like at the moment. Now I'm depressed.

[OSR stands with Israel]

We dont need William Jennings Bryan Ted Cruz type politicians now more than ever

Fixed again. . (Though WJB would be an excellent improvement over traditional Dems).

In a party system that pitted WJB-type Dems against Bloomberg-type Reps, which party would you be inclined to vote for?

Yuck. Come on, aren't there any better examples of secular somewhat socially liberalish right wingers?

The point is to propose the worst. What would you prefer? Lincoln Chafee? Rudy Giuliani?

...You know, I'm having a hard time thinking of anybody I actually like at the moment. Now I'm depressed.

Rand Paul

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

We dont need William Jennings Bryan Ted Cruz type politicians now more than ever

Fixed again. . (Though WJB would be an excellent improvement over traditional Dems).

In a party system that pitted WJB-type Dems against Bloomberg-type Reps, which party would you be inclined to vote for?

Yuck. Come on, aren't there any better examples of secular somewhat socially liberalish right wingers?

The point is to propose the worst. What would you prefer? Lincoln Chafee? Rudy Giuliani?

...You know, I'm having a hard time thinking of anybody I actually like at the moment. Now I'm depressed.

Jerry Browns '76 and '92 are both cool. Tsongas '92 as well, though both seem to have become protectionists by then.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

We dont need William Jennings Bryan Ted Cruz type politicians now more than ever

Fixed again. . (Though WJB would be an excellent improvement over traditional Dems).

In a party system that pitted WJB-type Dems against Bloomberg-type Reps, which party would you be inclined to vote for?

Yuck. Come on, aren't there any better examples of secular somewhat socially liberalish right wingers?

The point is to propose the worst. What would you prefer? Lincoln Chafee? Rudy Giuliani?

...You know, I'm having a hard time thinking of anybody I actually like at the moment. Now I'm depressed.

Jerry Browns '76 and '92 are both cool. Tsongas '92 as well, though both seem to have become protectionists by then.

[Goldwater]

You know, for some odd reason I'm getting the impression that Jerry Browns '76 and '92 are both cool. Tsongas '92 as well, though both seem to have become protectionists by then.

[DC Al Fine]

My problem with the Christina left is less with the 'left' and more with the 'Christian'. Too many of them deny essentials of the faith.

[Beet]

My problem with the Christina left is less with the 'left' and more with the 'Christian'. Too many of them deny essentials of the faith.

Such as?

[DC Al Fine]

My problem with the Christina left is less with the 'left' and more with the 'Christian'. Too many of them deny essentials of the faith.

Such as?

The divinity of Jesus Christ.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

My problem with the Christina left is less with the 'left' and more with the 'Christian'. Too many of them deny essentials of the faith.

I've never understood why this is. It doesn't seem like it should automatically follow from any of the fundamental principles of left-wing thought.

[Laeta]

We dont need William Jennings Bryan Ted Cruz type politicians now more than ever

Fixed again. . (Though WJB would be an excellent improvement over traditional Dems).

In a party system that pitted WJB-type Dems against Bloomberg-type Reps, which party would you be inclined to vote for?

Yuck. Come on, aren't there any better examples of secular somewhat socially liberalish right wingers?

"Right wing?"

Bloomberg aligns with the Democrats on almost every single social and economic issue. He's basically a generic liberal. He's very left wing.

[Beet]

My problem with the Christina left is less with the 'left' and more with the 'Christian'. Too many of them deny essentials of the faith.

Such as?

The divinity of Jesus Christ.

You cannot deny the divinity of Christ and be a Christian.

[White Trash]

My problem with the Christina left is less with the 'left' and more with the 'Christian'. Too many of them deny essentials of the faith.

Such as?

The divinity of Jesus Christ.

You cannot deny the divinity of Christ and be a Christian.

Don't some Unitarians do that?

[ApatheticAustrian]

denying the divinity....like mister trump's inauguration preacher heretic lady?

https://youtu.be/jp39cgzshYA?t=173

[Blue3]

My problem with the Christina left is less with the 'left' and more with the 'Christian'. Too many of them deny essentials of the faith.

Such as?

The divinity of Jesus Christ.

That's a small, small minority of leftwing Christians.

[ApatheticAustrian]

besides the minor divinity question, i would think of the abortion/death penatly question to be of much more practical consequence.

as far as i am concerned people who approve of the death penalty are automatically heretics, but i am pretty sure most would think of abortion-"realists" like myself in a similar matter.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

besides the minor divinity question, i would think of the abortion/death penatly question to be of much more practical consequence.

as far as i am concerned people who approve of the death penalty are automatically heretics, but i am pretty sure most would think of abortion-"realists" like myself in a similar matter.

I would say that being a "realist" about abortion, as one would be about e.g. foreign policy, would be on the leftward edge of orthodoxy but still within it, but thinking of abortion as a positive good would not be orthodox. ("Orthodoxy" defined in the broadest, most pan-Christian sense.)

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Not to derail the thread, and I am in no way interested in a debate on abortion, but "abortion realism" as a concept (undefined) has a way of turning my stomach primarily because of its appeal to practicality (as much as I myself am wont to dismiss most other political aims on the basis of their impracticality).

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Not to derail the thread, and I am in no way interested in a debate on abortion, but "abortion realism" as a concept (undefined) has a way of turning my stomach primarily because of its appeal to practicality (as much as I myself am wont to dismiss most other political aims on the basis of their impracticality).

Yeah, being not-heretical doesn't mean a religious or political idea is good or adequately grounded.

[they don't love you like i love you]

My problem with the Christina left is less with the 'left' and more with the 'Christian'. Too many of them deny essentials of the faith.

Good thing you can't say that about the emergent church!

[Zioneer]

I consider myself a Mormon social democrat, or even mild Mormon socialist. There's as much room to support that as there is to support Mormon conservatism.

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

We dont need William Jennings Bryan Ted Cruz type politicians now more than ever

Fixed again. . (Though WJB would be an excellent improvement over traditional Dems).

In a party system that pitted WJB-type Dems against Bloomberg-type Reps, which party would you be inclined to vote for?

Yuck. Come on, aren't there any better examples of secular somewhat socially liberalish right wingers?

"Right wing?"

Bloomberg aligns with the Democrats on almost every single social and economic issue. He's basically a generic liberal. He's very left wing.

VERY left wing?

[ApatheticAustrian]

Not to derail the thread, and I am in no way interested in a debate on abortion, but "abortion realism" as a concept (undefined) has a way of turning my stomach primarily because of its appeal to practicality (as much as I myself am wont to dismiss most other political aims on the basis of their impracticality).

i understand your feelings and i am in no way trying to be edgy/offensive - it's just my sincere belief, that the only real way to prevent/decrease the number of abortions is increasing the qualify of life standards in a society as a whole - and i am not a big supporter of switching safe clinics woth coat hooks.

there are many many many different ways to decrease the number of abortions without shutting down clinics or pressue the mothers.

[RI]

My problem with the Christina left is less with the 'left' and more with the 'Christian'. Too many of them deny essentials of the faith.

Good thing you can't say that about the emergent church!

Says the man who worships politicians as false idols.

Not to derail the thread, and I am in no way interested in a debate on abortion, but "abortion realism" as a concept (undefined) has a way of turning my stomach primarily because of its appeal to practicality (as much as I myself am wont to dismiss most other political aims on the basis of their impracticality).

Well yeah, it's a naked appeal to consequentialism.

[Mopsus]

I consider myself a Mormon social democrat, or even mild Mormon socialist. There's as much room to support that as there is to support Mormon conservatism.

This is true; anyone who doubts should look into the United Order.

In fact, if I were to become an advocate for Christian socialism, the Catholics and the Mormons would be my target audience.