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« Reply #125 on: March 21, 2017, 05:39:27 PM »

Jeremy Jamm in Councilman Dexhart's body
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« Reply #126 on: March 21, 2017, 05:48:44 PM »

Can his nickname be Francois Failin'?
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« Reply #127 on: March 21, 2017, 06:05:00 PM »

I find that Fillon reminds me a lot of that 360 year old vampire Barnabas Collins from the 1960s gothic soap opera Dark Shadows...now we just have to drive a stake through Fillon's heart and wave garlic at him

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« Reply #128 on: March 21, 2017, 06:06:17 PM »

Rtbf say 3000 people attended Hamon meeting in Brussels.
Would be interested to know what kind of figures Macron musters in London and Brussels.
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« Reply #129 on: March 21, 2017, 06:21:22 PM »

OK, the hilarious implosion of Fillon really is a massive silver lining of this election.



The Canard is a national treasure, yes.
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« Reply #130 on: March 21, 2017, 07:06:54 PM »

if beautiful flawless macron isn't in the top 2 after the first round, brexit and trump polling errors are going to look like a tiny rounding errors.
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« Reply #131 on: March 21, 2017, 11:35:18 PM »

Poll, OpinionWay for Le Point

Who convinced you the most?
Macron: 24%
Le Pen: 19%
Fillon: 19%
Mélenchon: 15%
Hamon: 10%

Do you have a better or worse opinion of the candidate?
Macron: better 29%, same 52, worse 19%
Mélenchon: better 27%, same 59%, worse: 14%
Hamon: better 18%, same 58%, worse: 24%
Le Pen: better 18, same 56%, worse 27%
Fillon: better 14%, same 55%, worse 30%

Honnest: Mélenchon 69%, Hamon 62%, Macron 59%, Le Pen 34%, Fillon 24%
Presidential: Macron 62%, Fillon 49%, Le Pen 38%, Mélenchon 35%, Hamon 33%
Authority: Mélenchon 67%, Le Pen 65%, Macron 63%, Fillon 59%, Hamon 32%
Credible: Macron 59%, Mélenchon 44%, Fillon 38%, Hamon 37%, Le Pen 36%
Understands the concerns of the French: Mélenchon 65%, Macron 56%, Le Pen 54%, Hamon 52%, Fillon 35%

According to this poll, Mélenchon must've performed incredibly well in the debate. I wish that'd translate into a significant surge in support.
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« Reply #132 on: March 21, 2017, 11:35:18 PM »

Poll, OpinionWay for Le Point

Who convinced you the most?
Macron: 24%
Le Pen: 19%
Fillon: 19%
Mélenchon: 15%
Hamon: 10%

Do you have a better or worse opinion of the candidate?
Macron: better 29%, same 52, worse 19%
Mélenchon: better 27%, same 59%, worse: 14%
Hamon: better 18%, same 58%, worse: 24%
Le Pen: better 18, same 56%, worse 27%
Fillon: better 14%, same 55%, worse 30%

Honnest: Mélenchon 69%, Hamon 62%, Macron 59%, Le Pen 34%, Fillon 24%
Presidential: Macron 62%, Fillon 49%, Le Pen 38%, Mélenchon 35%, Hamon 33%
Authority: Mélenchon 67%, Le Pen 65%, Macron 63%, Fillon 59%, Hamon 32%
Credible: Macron 59%, Mélenchon 44%, Fillon 38%, Hamon 37%, Le Pen 36%
Understands the concerns of the French: Mélenchon 65%, Macron 56%, Le Pen 54%, Hamon 52%, Fillon 35%

According to this poll, Mélenchon must've performed incredibly well in the debate. I wish that'd translate into a significant surge in support.
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« Reply #133 on: March 21, 2017, 11:44:05 PM »

Poll, OpinionWay for Le Point

Who convinced you the most?
Macron: 24%
Le Pen: 19%
Fillon: 19%
Mélenchon: 15%
Hamon: 10%

Do you have a better or worse opinion of the candidate?
Macron: better 29%, same 52, worse 19%
Mélenchon: better 27%, same 59%, worse: 14%
Hamon: better 18%, same 58%, worse: 24%
Le Pen: better 18, same 56%, worse 27%
Fillon: better 14%, same 55%, worse 30%

Honnest: Mélenchon 69%, Hamon 62%, Macron 59%, Le Pen 34%, Fillon 24%
Presidential: Macron 62%, Fillon 49%, Le Pen 38%, Mélenchon 35%, Hamon 33%
Authority: Mélenchon 67%, Le Pen 65%, Macron 63%, Fillon 59%, Hamon 32%
Credible: Macron 59%, Mélenchon 44%, Fillon 38%, Hamon 37%, Le Pen 36%
Understands the concerns of the French: Mélenchon 65%, Macron 56%, Le Pen 54%, Hamon 52%, Fillon 35%

According to this poll, Mélenchon must've performed incredibly well in the debate. I wish that'd translate into a significant surge in support.

You realize that any Mélenchon gains will come at Hamon's expense, right?
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« Reply #134 on: March 22, 2017, 12:10:34 AM »

Poll, OpinionWay for Le Point

Who convinced you the most?
Macron: 24%
Le Pen: 19%
Fillon: 19%
Mélenchon: 15%
Hamon: 10%

Do you have a better or worse opinion of the candidate?
Macron: better 29%, same 52, worse 19%
Mélenchon: better 27%, same 59%, worse: 14%
Hamon: better 18%, same 58%, worse: 24%
Le Pen: better 18, same 56%, worse 27%
Fillon: better 14%, same 55%, worse 30%

Honnest: Mélenchon 69%, Hamon 62%, Macron 59%, Le Pen 34%, Fillon 24%
Presidential: Macron 62%, Fillon 49%, Le Pen 38%, Mélenchon 35%, Hamon 33%
Authority: Mélenchon 67%, Le Pen 65%, Macron 63%, Fillon 59%, Hamon 32%
Credible: Macron 59%, Mélenchon 44%, Fillon 38%, Hamon 37%, Le Pen 36%
Understands the concerns of the French: Mélenchon 65%, Macron 56%, Le Pen 54%, Hamon 52%, Fillon 35%

According to this poll, Mélenchon must've performed incredibly well in the debate. I wish that'd translate into a significant surge in support.

You realize that any Mélenchon gains will come at Hamon's expense, right?

Yes, I do. Hamon simply doesn't have a realistic chance at this point. That's not to say Mélenchon does, but if his strong performance elevates him in the polls, considering the incredibly slim chance either left-wing candidate has of reaching the second round, then at least one of them has some hope. Plus, Mélenchon, based on my admittedly limited knowledge of French politics, seems the more fitting candidate for my political views.
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« Reply #135 on: March 22, 2017, 12:19:19 AM »

Mélenchon's absolute ceiling is probably around 15%. There just aren't that many French people who find his political views acceptable. He is also a self-important, pretentious egotist who would burn the country to the ground if doing so made him look cool. He has some good policies, but a lot of them are sheer populist grandstanding, and his presidency would trigger a serious crisis in the EU.

Hamon has basically all the good aspects of Mélenchon's platform without the bad that comes with him.
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« Reply #136 on: March 22, 2017, 01:08:51 AM »

Lol Fillon. What's next?
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« Reply #137 on: March 22, 2017, 04:13:21 AM »
« Edited: March 22, 2017, 04:44:50 AM by Intell »

If Hamon has no chance to make it, probably would support Melechon. Really liked him in the debate, and his policies.

 Melechon seemed to ignore, the immigration issue, while Hamon and Marcon were more supportive of immigration. Melechon seemed to be more about stopping wars, that promote migration,and his campaigned seems to be more focused on that, as well as opposing free trade deals, so that they can stay in their country.
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« Reply #138 on: March 22, 2017, 04:42:40 AM »

Fillon had access to his mobile phone during the debate and received texts from his communications advisor (Le Figaro, Le Parisien)
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« Reply #139 on: March 22, 2017, 08:48:21 AM »

Fillon is behind everything
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« Reply #140 on: March 22, 2017, 08:56:02 AM »

I wonder what's still out there about Fillon. Nobody could have imagined just how corrupt that dude is. Will the election be postponed if he drops out now? Or is that only the case under special circumstances (death, incarceration, stuff like that)? Not that he is going to drop out, he seems to believe he is entitled to the presidency.
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« Reply #141 on: March 22, 2017, 09:23:55 AM »

why are media so obsessed with fillon? he really should openly endorse le pen after first round.
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« Reply #142 on: March 22, 2017, 09:53:13 AM »

Fillon had access to his mobile phone during the debate and received texts from his communications advisor (Le Figaro, Le Parisien)
This is a joke right?

What the hell François!!!
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« Reply #143 on: March 22, 2017, 11:20:23 AM »

Masks are now falling, we can all see the conspiracy at work, the plan is being achieved by this resignation of Le Roux in order to better call for my resignation, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAARRRGGGHHHH...

Only the cap part is from me, the rest is from François Fillon, earlier today on franceinfo.

Waiting that they now call the London attack a conspiracy from PS.

Amusing how now, for the only fact to resign for being taken in dirty trick, Le Roux shows as virtuous, that's where we are now, thank u Franky & Co.
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« Reply #144 on: March 22, 2017, 11:44:46 AM »

At this rate Fillon will soon be ranting about how Rockefeller (he isn't dead! Lizardmen!), Soros and the Jews are conspiring against him because they want PC Macron as president.

Anyway, if Fillon really had contact with his communications director during the debate I wonder if he also did have contact with him during the primary debates. It would explain his strong performances there.
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« Reply #145 on: March 22, 2017, 12:12:36 PM »
« Edited: March 22, 2017, 12:19:30 PM by Tirnam »

Poor Fillon, a month to hold, after he will be able to retire in his manor.

Tracking polls

OpinionWay
Le Pen: 26% (-1)
Macron: 24% (=)
Fillon: 19% (+1)
Hamon: 13% (-1)
Mélenchon: 12% (+1)

Second round
Macron: 62% (+1), Le Pen 38%

Ifop
Le Pen: 25.5% (-0.5)
Macron: 25.5% (=)
Fillon: 18% (+0.5)
Mélenchon: 12% (+0.5)
Hamon: 11% (-0.5)

Second round
Macron 61% (+0.5), Le Pen 39%

Also it worth notice that Dupont-Aignan reaches the 5% threshold in two polls (Elabe poll yesterday and Ifop tracking)
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« Reply #146 on: March 22, 2017, 01:28:28 PM »

Also it worth notice that Dupont-Aignan reaches the 5% threshold in two polls (Elabe poll yesterday and Ifop tracking)
Is there any explanation for this?
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« Reply #147 on: March 22, 2017, 01:34:00 PM »

Also it worth notice that Dupont-Aignan reaches the 5% threshold in two polls (Elabe poll yesterday and Ifop tracking)
Is there any explanation for this?

Constant barrages of negative news about Fillon coupled with "traditional right" voters having nowhere else to go?
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« Reply #148 on: March 22, 2017, 02:23:38 PM »

Also it worth notice that Dupont-Aignan reaches the 5% threshold in two polls (Elabe poll yesterday and Ifop tracking)
Is there any explanation for this?

Constant barrages of negative news about Fillon coupled with "traditional right" voters having nowhere else to go?

He's also been on several TV sets, walking out of one for not having been invited.
He's using his exposure early to try and usurp Fillon.
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« Reply #149 on: March 22, 2017, 04:30:12 PM »

Also it worth notice that Dupont-Aignan reaches the 5% threshold in two polls (Elabe poll yesterday and Ifop tracking)
Is there any explanation for this?

Constant barrages of negative news about Fillon coupled with "traditional right" voters having nowhere else to go?

Yes, it's likely that he attracts former Fillon supporters but he has started to gain momentum only in the recent days when there wasn't massive drop for Fillon. Though if he got some additional TV coverage, this could be the explanation.
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