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« Reply #800 on: April 20, 2017, 12:07:14 PM »

Another Harris Poll for LCP

Macron: 24,5% (+0,5 since last week)
Le Pen: 21% (-1)
Fillon: 20% (=)
Mélenchon: 19% (=)
Hamon: 7,5% (-0,5)
Dupont-Aignan: 4% (=)
Poutou: 1,5% (+0,5)
Lassalle: 1%
Asselineau: 1% (=)
Arthaud: 0.5% (+0.5)
Cheminade: 0 % (=)
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« Reply #801 on: April 20, 2017, 01:31:05 PM »

Macron's strength - and Le Pen's weakness - in the North West of France is very interesting imo. Shows the ways in which Macron is the most 'traditional right' of all the candidates.
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« Reply #802 on: April 20, 2017, 01:33:07 PM »

Macron's strength - and Le Pen's weakness - in the North West of France is very interesting imo. Shows the ways in which Macron is the most 'traditional right' of all the candidates.

What is the traditional Right for you? More Giscard or more Chirac?
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« Reply #803 on: April 20, 2017, 01:36:03 PM »

Macron's strength - and Le Pen's weakness - in the North West of France is very interesting imo. Shows the ways in which Macron is the most 'traditional right' of all the candidates.

Or demographic change - the North West has secularised dramatically; and Rennes and Nantes are almost the two most obvious examples of socially liberal, prosperous, bobo cities in the country.

Although the region has always been politically moderate, a friendly country for centrists.
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« Reply #804 on: April 20, 2017, 01:46:55 PM »

Macron's strength - and Le Pen's weakness - in the North West of France is very interesting imo. Shows the ways in which Macron is the most 'traditional right' of all the candidates.

Or demographic change - the North West has secularised dramatically; and Rennes and Nantes are almost the two most obvious examples of socially liberal, prosperous, bobo cities in the country.

Although the region has always been politically moderate, a friendly country for centrists.

Ah, but if the North West had become like the rest of France then it wouldn't stand out in elections.
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« Reply #805 on: April 20, 2017, 01:47:39 PM »

Macron's strength - and Le Pen's weakness - in the North West of France is very interesting imo. Shows the ways in which Macron is the most 'traditional right' of all the candidates.

What is the traditional Right for you? More Giscard or more Chirac?

It means it likes the Pope and doesn't like Parisians telling them what to do. Which makes Fillon's failure more interesting...
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« Reply #806 on: April 20, 2017, 02:29:01 PM »

Macron's strength - and Le Pen's weakness - in the North West of France is very interesting imo. Shows the ways in which Macron is the most 'traditional right' of all the candidates.

What is the traditional Right for you? More Giscard or more Chirac?

It means it likes the Pope and doesn't like Parisians telling them what to do. Which makes Fillon's failure more interesting...

Who do you think they would have voted for in 2012 first round?

Also, how do you think they situate in René Remond's categories:  https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Droites_en_France#Actualisation_de_2005
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« Reply #807 on: April 20, 2017, 02:38:37 PM »

Shooting on the Champs-Elysées, one policeman dead, one suspect killed.
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« Reply #808 on: April 20, 2017, 02:40:43 PM »

Shooting on the Champs-Elysées, one policeman dead, one suspect killed.

It's like the Islamists want the far right to win... oh yes it gives them their holy war. Plus, there are always riots right before a far right winger is up for election, so I expect plenty of those in the next month.
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« Reply #809 on: April 20, 2017, 02:57:11 PM »

Police according to BFMTV: the shooting might not be terrorist related but criminal.
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« Reply #810 on: April 20, 2017, 03:33:47 PM »

It seems that it was a terrorist attack.
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« Reply #811 on: April 20, 2017, 03:44:37 PM »

It seems that it was a terrorist attack.

It won't change one single vote. Too little too late
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« Reply #812 on: April 20, 2017, 03:45:39 PM »

It seems that it was a terrorist attack.

It won't change one single vote. Too little too late

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affaire_Paul_Voise
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« Reply #813 on: April 20, 2017, 03:56:50 PM »

It's hard to know if this news had any impact in the election, Le Pen gained support in the polls before that.

This last few months we had two terrorist incidents (in the Louvre, in Orly), with no impact on the race, but this one is very close to the vote and is more serious (with now 2 policemen dead).

I think that Le Pen could regain some voters who went to Mélenchon, securing her position to the second round, beside that I don't think that it will have a huge impact.
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« Reply #814 on: April 20, 2017, 04:00:20 PM »

the too late thing is pointless, there just have been much worse terror attacks in france anyway.
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« Reply #815 on: April 20, 2017, 04:09:40 PM »

Fillon cancels his events for the last day of the official campaign.
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« Reply #816 on: April 20, 2017, 04:12:00 PM »

Fillon cancels his events for the last day of the official campaign.

That probably helps him. The more Fillon campaigns the more people are reminded of how despicable he is
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« Reply #817 on: April 20, 2017, 04:16:17 PM »

Le Pen ends his campaign too.

The others will probably follow.
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« Reply #818 on: April 20, 2017, 04:45:46 PM »

BREAKING: Isis claims responsibility for Champs Elysees terror shooting that left one French policeman dead.
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« Reply #819 on: April 20, 2017, 04:50:12 PM »

ISIS is such a joke at this point.

no one really believes anything they say anymore.
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« Reply #820 on: April 20, 2017, 04:59:03 PM »

I was actually thinking just earlier today that ISIS had been very quiet lately...it's been many months since they've done anything major
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« Reply #821 on: April 20, 2017, 05:56:41 PM »

Macron's strength - and Le Pen's weakness - in the North West of France is very interesting imo. Shows the ways in which Macron is the most 'traditional right' of all the candidates.


Regardless of what you think of him, Hollande did pretty good in Breton.


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« Reply #822 on: April 20, 2017, 05:58:47 PM »

But back in the 70s and 80s Brittany was considered a rightwing stronghold that supported Giscard over Mitterrand in. Oth 1974 and 1981
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« Reply #823 on: April 20, 2017, 06:08:33 PM »

And in the 1970s/80s PACA was a left wing stronghold. Things changed, demography changed.

Has has posted about this far more knowledgeably that I ever could, but there is a lot going on a Brittany politics -

The Trégor region in the North west of Brittany has been a left wing stronghold for a long time, as have working class cities like Lorient and Brest.

The areas around Rennes and Nantes are solidly left wing, but of a more moderate sort, coming from a young, wealthy, well educated demographic.

The region as a whole has moved to the left as it has become more secular, in particular the far east of the region, and around the Monts d'Arrée in Finistere, which are traditional catholic strongholds.

The inner west (the belt that stretches from Vendée to the Cotentin) is (still) conservative as it has a strong catholic religious tradition. But, as in Brittany, this is a traditionally moderate, centrist ideology, and has also moved left as the region has become more secular.
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« Reply #824 on: April 20, 2017, 06:19:09 PM »
« Edited: April 20, 2017, 06:21:51 PM by Bumaye »

I was actually thinking just earlier today that ISIS had been very quiet lately...it's been many months since they've done anything major
 
  
In Europe and NA maybe but don't forget that the church bombings in Egypt with 45 casualties was less then two weeks ago. And even when we include the west: The attack at Westminster happened less then a month ago. 
 
And when I google for prevented terror attacks I find quite a few recent ones. Vienna, Venedig, Paris, Göttingen, Las Palmas to name a few.
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