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« on: April 23, 2017, 06:34:40 PM »
« edited: April 24, 2017, 01:08:36 AM by True Federalist »

http://pres-slaves.zohosites.com/andrew-jackson.html

1814 from an ad for a runaway slave published by Jackson:

“If taken (that is, captured) out of state, the above reward ($50), and all reasonable  expenses paid – and ten dollars extra, for every hundred lashes any person will give him, to the amount of three  hundred.”

Truly a monstrous act of cruelty in the annals of Presidential history.

Other Presidents were slave owners, but I am not aware than any other slave owner President was as cruel and sadistic to his slaves as was Jackson.

A portrait of slaver Jackson deserves to be hung in the Hall of Shame, not put on the $20 bill.

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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2017, 09:45:25 PM »

http://pres-slaves.zohosites.com/andrew-jackson.html

1814 from an ad for a runaway slave published by Jackson:

“If taken (that is, captured) out of state, the above reward ($50), and all reasonable  expenses paid – and ten dollars extra, for every hundred lashes any person will give him, to the amount of three  hundred.”

Truly a monstrous act of cruelty in the annals of Presidential history.

Other Presidents were slave owners, but I am not aware than any other slave owner President was as cruel and sadistic to his slaves as was Jackson.

A portrait of slaver Jackson deserves to be hung in the Hall of Shame, not put on the $20 bill.

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lol, classic Winfield.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2017, 10:30:39 PM »

Yeah Jackson was a pretty disgusting human being. I do give him credit for shutting down the nullifiers and John Calhoun, which made it easier to defeat the slave power in the long run.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2017, 01:07:57 AM »

Actually, Jackson was a Republican long before he was a Democrat, Winfield. However, I don't appreciate you undoing my moderation of your trolling.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2017, 08:50:39 AM »

Jackson was more cruel than Washington or Jefferson and cruelty in that day was more akin to level of enforcement or disciplinary actions, esp. harsher the further south you went. Jackson, overall, was ruthless in military matters, business, politics, and smears and deaths (his wife Rachel and the corrupt bargain of 1824). He was a hard, NFG type of guy for his day that is why so many admired him then and now.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2017, 09:05:49 AM »

Actually, Jackson was a Republican long before he was a Democrat, Winfield. However, I don't appreciate you undoing my moderation of your trolling.

Sorry, perhaps I was a bit verbose in my presentation of this topic, however, I was simply attempting to convey my opinion in this matter.

Please delete the thread. 
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2017, 12:12:50 PM »

As long as keep to history rather than current day trolling, it's fine.
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2017, 05:18:19 PM »

While a fierce opponent of those who perpetuate the "parties switched ideologies" myth, it's infinitely more stupid to hold a modern day Democrat accountable for the actions of a man who's been dead for close to 200 years and happened to belong to that era's version of the "Democratic Party" ... but yes, Andrew Jackson was absolutely terrible.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2017, 05:23:19 PM »

A portrait of slaver Jackson deserves to be hung in the Hall of Shame, not put on the $20 bill.
I am personally in favor of stamping Jackon's face on some worthless piece of paper currency, as a final punishment for his disastrous opposition to the Bank of the United States.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2017, 08:07:18 PM »

A portrait of slaver Jackson deserves to be hung in the Hall of Shame, not put on the $20 bill.
I am personally in favor of stamping Jackon's face on some worthless piece of paper currency, as a final punishment for his disastrous opposition to the Bank of the United States.
If he is to be on our money, the $20 bill is the appropriate one as he wanted that to be the smallest denomination of paper money. (The highest valued U.S. coin at the time was the gold eagle, worth $10.)
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2017, 01:23:44 PM »
« Edited: April 27, 2017, 01:56:57 PM by Lincoln Republican »

Perhaps a better way  for me to have presented this issue, so as not to be thought of as trolling

Re:  Andrew Jackson issued a warrant for an escaped slave of his

http://pres-slaves.zohosites.com/andrew-jackson.html

1814 from an ad for a runaway slave published by Jackson:

“If taken (that is, captured) out of state, the above reward ($50), and all reasonable  expenses paid – and ten dollars extra, for every hundred lashes any person will give him, to the amount of three  hundred.”

This is a terrible act of cruelty that nobody has the right to inflict on another.  

Other Presidents were slave owners, but I am not aware that any other slave owner President was as cruel to his slaves as was Jackson.

Jackson should never have been given the honor of having his portrait appear on the $20 bill.

His portrait belongs in the Hall of Shame.
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2017, 02:43:04 PM »

Jackson should never have been given the honor of having his portrait appear on the $20 bill.
I disagree. Keep in mind, the man did hate banks. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2017, 10:04:28 PM »
« Edited: April 28, 2017, 12:13:09 AM by Lincoln Republican »

Jackson should never have been given the honor of having his portrait appear on the $20 bill.
I disagree. Keep in mind, the man did hate banks. Wink

Oh, what an absolutely diabolical plot to punish Jackson for his misdeeds of the past, putting his picture on U.S. currency.

Ha Ha!
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2017, 03:14:52 PM »

Not a fan.
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2017, 01:45:38 PM »

The State's Rights Dixicrat Party was alive until 1932.  Although, Wilson and Bryan were pretty much pro-labor and considerate of WEB Dubois.

But Jackson-Jeffersonian era was pretty conservative era, which lasted until 1865.
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2017, 07:22:20 PM »
« Edited: May 27, 2017, 07:24:31 PM by darklordoftech »



But Jackson-Jeffersonian era was pretty conservative era, which lasted until 1865.
I'd say that the Greenback Party was the first liberal party.
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2017, 05:18:05 PM »

So? He lived in the 18th and 19th centuries, it was acceptable at that time.
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2017, 08:27:36 PM »

But Jackson-Jeffersonian era was pretty conservative era, which lasted until 1865.
No.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2017, 09:31:45 AM »

But Jackson-Jeffersonian era was pretty conservative era, which lasted until 1865.
No.

Traditional era
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2017, 02:23:02 PM »

I actually saw a persuasive case somewhere that his ruthless slaver ways were Jackson's real personal sin, rather than the Native removals, which were intended to be more humane than slaughtering them all (which is, uh, arguable to say the least)
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2017, 11:07:07 PM »

His refusal to uphold the ruling Worcester v. Georgia disturbs me every time I think about it.
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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2017, 10:04:14 AM »

A portrait of slaver Jackson deserves to be hung in the Hall of Shame, not put on the $20 bill.
I am personally in favor of stamping Jackon's face on some worthless piece of paper currency, as a final punishment for his disastrous opposition to the Bank of the United States.

His reasoning for his objections to the Second Bank of the United States could have merit for Jeffersonians, libertarians and today's progressives:
* Not wanting to be beholden to foreign powers
* Not having an insulated bank czar in Biddle
* Not wanting to have the rich get richer
* Preventing the Northeast be favored over the rest of the US

His tactics on how he sought to stop the bank were. But he was not the sole bad actor

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Personally though the ethnic cleansing and forcible removal of Native American tribes - the Trail of Tears - is Jackson's biggest black spot. That is possibly the worst act authorized by an American president in history on American soil.
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2017, 12:06:37 PM »

Disgusting human being.
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2017, 01:06:40 PM »

I actually saw a persuasive case somewhere that his ruthless slaver ways were Jackson's real personal sin, rather than the Native removals, which were intended to be more humane than slaughtering them all (which is, uh, arguable to say the least)

Yep the geopgraphical nature of the vote with the south most im favor of indian removal makes the motive behind it quite dubious. It does smell of appeaser logic as well, however considering how few cared about protecting them against violence from white squatters removal may have been the only politically acceptable way to reduce tensions and prevent some sort of bloodbath that would screw Native Americans over anyway.
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