New generation of the GOP?

[5280]

Are Milo Yiannopoulos, Lauren Southern, Katherine Timpf, Kiara Robles the new generation of the GOP? One is gay, one is Canadian, one is Millennial and the other is lesbian. They all have one thing in common, all support Trump, pro-life. I believe the party is starting to become more inclusive and having a larger tent of different views.

What do you guys/gals think?  This is Kiara Robles the women who got pepper sprayed at the Berkeley protest, if you don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thQ-npCxGMQ

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This is basically (ironically enough) identity politics at its most shallow. Basically a misunderstanding of why minorities or young women vote for the GOP, from the "voters are thick" school of politicking.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Are Milo Yiannopoulos, Lauren Southern, Katherine Timpf, Kiara Robles the new generation of the GOP? One is gay, one is Canadian, one is Millennial and the other is lesbian. They all have one thing in common, all support Trump, pro-life. I believe the party is starting to become more inclusive and having a larger tent of different views.

What do you guys/gals think?  This is Kiara Robles the women who got pepper sprayed at the Berkeley protest, if you don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thQ-npCxGMQ

If Milo if the future of the GOP then they will be in worse shape in the future then dems are now

[Comrade Funk]

Are Milo Yiannopoulos, Lauren Southern, Katherine Timpf, Kiara Robles the new generation of the GOP? One is gay, one is Canadian, one is Millennial and the other is lesbian. They all have one thing in common, all support Trump, pro-life. I believe the party is starting to become more inclusive and having a larger tent of different views.

What do you guys/gals think?  This is Kiara Robles the women who got pepper sprayed at the Berkeley protest, if you don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thQ-npCxGMQ

Becoming more alt-right/fascist is not "inclusive". I don't care how many tokens they have.

[5280]

I could easily see the Christian conservatives break off and form a new 3rd party in 5-10 years. The new GOP is nothing like the old guard GOP of the 1980s-2000s.

[Comrade Funk]

I could easily see the Christian conservatives break off and form a new 3rd party. The new GOP is nothing like the old guard GOP of the 1980s-2000s.

Those "Christians" don't give a damn about their religion. They hate universal healthcare and support the death penalty. How Christian. They overwhelmingly supported Trump because he and those stooges you listed represent what they really want which is a whiter country.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I could easily see the Christian conservatives break off and form a new 3rd party in 5-10 years. The new GOP is nothing like the old guard GOP of the 1980s-2000s.

Which will not only be a disaster to the GOP but be a disaster to the country as well

[Virginiá]

I could easily see the Christian conservatives break off and form a new 3rd party in 5-10 years. The new GOP is nothing like the old guard GOP of the 1980s-2000s.

Which would almost surely split the vote for Republicans in general and lead to more Democratic victories, at which point those voters would eventually find themselves back in the GOP, with some possibly sticking around as 3rd party voters. America is not set up for 2+ parties - particularly in presidential elections. As well, at this point I'd say partisan loyalties are too deeply embedded to result in what you're saying.

But the GOP becoming more inclusive? Really? Have you seen what has been going on the past 18 months? If anything, they've gotten worse. As it looks now, they have most definitely not changed for the better in terms of tolerance/inclusiveness. Trump, a poster child for divisiveness, bigotry and bullying is now the leader of the Republican Party, and so long as he is that, the GOP will not be a beacon of tolerance going forward.

[Santander]

I could easily see the Christian conservatives break off and form a new 3rd party. The new GOP is nothing like the old guard GOP of the 1980s-2000s.

Those "Christians" don't give a damn about their religion. They hate universal healthcare and support the death penalty. How Christian. They overwhelmingly supported Trump because he and those stooges you listed represent what they really want which is a whiter country.

Capital punishment and personal responsibility (as, of course, is compassion) are both in the Bible, but okay.

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the GOP would be stupid to abandon abortion, and that's, like, the biggest issue for most evangelicals. They would vote for a drag queen Trotskyist if he was more opposed to abortion than the opponent.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

I could easily see the Christian conservatives break off and form a new 3rd party. The new GOP is nothing like the old guard GOP of the 1980s-2000s.

Those "Christians" don't give a damn about their religion. They hate universal healthcare and support the death penalty. How Christian. They overwhelmingly supported Trump because he and those stooges you listed represent what they really want which is a whiter country.

Capital punishment and personal responsibility (as, of course, is compassion) are both in the Bible, but okay.

Personal responsibility for one's general station in life and for the consequences of one's sins=/=personal responsibility to be or become rich enough that you can come up with the money for medical procedures that cost thousands of dollars a pop or else you'll die in a heap.

[Mr. Morden]

But the GOP becoming more inclusive? Really? Have you seen what has been going on the past 18 months? If anything, they've gotten worse. As it looks now, they have most definitely not changed for the better in terms of tolerance/inclusiveness. Trump, a poster child for divisiveness, bigotry and bullying is now the leader of the Republican Party, and so long as he is that, the GOP will not be a beacon of tolerance going forward.

The Trump-GOP isn't getting more "inclusive", but I think it is getting more secular.  Peter Beinart has a good column on that here:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/04/breaking-faith/517785/

[Virginiá]

The Trump-GOP isn't getting more "inclusive", but I think it is getting more secular.  Peter Beinart has a good column on that here:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/04/breaking-faith/517785/

Oh yes, I read this when it was published. Part of the reason it didn't come to mind previously, though, was because of this:

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It's just switching up the focus of the intolerance. Becoming more secular might possibly help them some with LGBT voters but again might end up hurting more so among minorities, the most important group they need to make inroads with, and the reason the Millennial generation is so heavily Democratic.

[Santander]

I could easily see the Christian conservatives break off and form a new 3rd party. The new GOP is nothing like the old guard GOP of the 1980s-2000s.

Those "Christians" don't give a damn about their religion. They hate universal healthcare and support the death penalty. How Christian. They overwhelmingly supported Trump because he and those stooges you listed represent what they really want which is a whiter country.

Capital punishment and personal responsibility (as, of course, is compassion) are both in the Bible, but okay.

Personal responsibility for one's general station in life and for the consequences of one's sins=/=personal responsibility to be or become rich enough that you can come up with the money for medical procedures that cost thousands of dollars a pop or else you'll die in a heap.

True, but I'm not that kind of Republican.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

I could easily see the Christian conservatives break off and form a new 3rd party. The new GOP is nothing like the old guard GOP of the 1980s-2000s.

Those "Christians" don't give a damn about their religion. They hate universal healthcare and support the death penalty. How Christian. They overwhelmingly supported Trump because he and those stooges you listed represent what they really want which is a whiter country.

Capital punishment and personal responsibility (as, of course, is compassion) are both in the Bible, but okay.

Personal responsibility for one's general station in life and for the consequences of one's sins=/=personal responsibility to be or become rich enough that you can come up with the money for medical procedures that cost thousands of dollars a pop or else you'll die in a heap.

True, but I'm not that kind of Republican.

Didn't think you were, just wanted to make sure.

[5280]

Another new social media page of generation Z and older Millennial GOP. They're out of Orange County called The Red Elephants. They covered the MAGA rallies in Hollywood and down in Huntington Beach.

http://theredelephants.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNiNWbmPWehjpQohglWsKxw

One of their contributors to The Red Elephants. A supposedly feminist.
https://twitter.com/realmagagirl/media?lang=en

I'm just glad that not a majority of the Millennial or generation Z are a monolithic voting block for the left.

[Inmate Trump]

Today's GOP is only inclusive to the point it brings them votes. But they'll continue to work against the "gay agenda" and "the blacks" any chance they get.

You can't be inclusive and have at the head of your party the face of Donald Trump.

[Person Man]

The strategy for the GOP is to get to 270, 218, and 50/51. You do that by getting from 7% to 11% with blacks, 33% to 36% with kids, and 58% to 61% with whitey. Karl Rove is still the strategic mastermind of the GOP.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I could easily see the Christian conservatives break off and form a new 3rd party. The new GOP is nothing like the old guard GOP of the 1980s-2000s.

Those "Christians" don't give a damn about their religion. They hate universal healthcare and support the death penalty. How Christian. They overwhelmingly supported Trump because he and those stooges you listed represent what they really want which is a whiter country.

The last election confirmed everything that liberals have been saying about Christian fundamentalists for decades.  They do not care about Jesus or following his commandments or getting "right with God" or whatever.  What they want is power.  Donald Trump is the most antithetical thing to Jesus Christ to run for the presidency in the modern era.  They voted in lockstep for him.  All the leaders of the evangelical community (Tony Perkins, Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell, Jr., etc.) came out and rallied around him as 'their guy,' going as far to call him a "baby Christian" because he said the right things about gays and abortion.

It's a shame that the same grace wasn't extended to Barack Obama every time his faith was called into question from the time he ran for president.

[Virginiá]

The last election confirmed everything that liberals have been saying about Christian fundamentalists for decades.  They do not care about Jesus or following his commandments or getting "right with God" or whatever.  What they want is power.  Donald Trump is the most antithetical thing to Jesus Christ to run for the presidency in the modern era.  They voted in lockstep for him.  All the leaders of the evangelical community (Tony Perkins, Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell, Jr., etc.) came out and rallied around him as 'their guy,' going as far to call him a "baby Christian" because he said the right things about gays and abortion.

It's a shame that the same grace wasn't extended to Barack Obama every time his faith was called into question from the time he ran for president.

Didn't Falwell Jr get behind Trump even before the primaries/caucuses started? I mean that was a point where options still at least appeared to exist.

It's fine if they want to back Trump, but I don't see how one can claim to hold all these religious values and then go enthusiastically back Trump, a man who seems like he was designed in a laboratory to be the most effective (in theory) candidate in repelling religious people. At this point, I think everyone who supported Trump should do some moral inventory and decide which they actually care about, and what means more to them - principles/morals or power?

It's a shame that the same grace wasn't extended to Barack Obama every time his faith was called into question from the time he ran for president.

That's some Grade A American Partisanship for you. If it is good for anything, it's laughs for when the brazen hypocrisy and shallow logic reaches comical levels.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Apparently Russell Moore, one of the only conservative Evangelical leaders to consistently point out that Trump is despicable, might get fired from his position in the Southern Baptist Convention for having the temerity to try to lead Evangelicalism away from the "Republican Party at prayer" model of public advocacy. These people are addicted to feeling superficially listened-to by politicians. It's the smack that, like Lou Reed, makes them feel like the children of Christ they're supposed to feel like anyway. At this point it's difficult to avoid the conclusion that, when they finally realize that being the "Republican Party at prayer" will not avail them any longer, they'll equivocate themselves out of relevance and possibly out of existence like an ossified Northern European state church.

[hopper]

Today's GOP is only inclusive to the point it brings them votes. But they'll continue to work against the "gay agenda" and "the blacks" any chance they get.

You can't be inclusive and have at the head of your party the face of Donald Trump.

What is the "gay agenda"? I mean we already have gay marriage in all 50 states. I think most people are over if somebody is gay or not.

Black People have been voting for Dems for the past 50+ years. They may or may not be voting like that for the next 50 years since they live in mainly big cities where the Dem political machines are powerful as heck. I think Baby Boomer and Gen X Black People will always be 90-95% Dem.

True its a big deal to have Trump as President( mainly since his infamous comment about Mexicans) but he is not gonna be President forever.

[hopper]

I could easily see the Christian conservatives break off and form a new 3rd party in 5-10 years. The new GOP is nothing like the old guard GOP of the 1980s-2000s.

Which would almost surely split the vote for Republicans in general and lead to more Democratic victories, at which point those voters would eventually find themselves back in the GOP, with some possibly sticking around as 3rd party voters. America is not set up for 2+ parties - particularly in presidential elections. As well, at this point I'd say partisan loyalties are too deeply embedded to result in what you're saying.

But the GOP becoming more inclusive? Really? Have you seen what has been going on the past 18 months? If anything, they've gotten worse. As it looks now, they have most definitely not changed for the better in terms of tolerance/inclusiveness. Trump, a poster child for divisiveness, bigotry and bullying is now the leader of the Republican Party, and so long as he is that, the GOP will not be a beacon of tolerance going forward.

Tolerance? Some liberals aren't tolerant at opposing political viewpoints.

As far as inclusiveness goes the Dems have always been more inclusive than the GOP going back to FDR probably maybe Ike might have been an exception though for a GOP Presidential Candidate.

[hopper]

The last election confirmed everything that liberals have been saying about Christian fundamentalists for decades.  They do not care about Jesus or following his commandments or getting "right with God" or whatever.  What they want is power.  Donald Trump is the most antithetical thing to Jesus Christ to run for the presidency in the modern era.  They voted in lockstep for him.  All the leaders of the evangelical community (Tony Perkins, Franklin Graham, Jerry Falwell, Jr., etc.) came out and rallied around him as 'their guy,' going as far to call him a "baby Christian" because he said the right things about gays and abortion.

It's a shame that the same grace wasn't extended to Barack Obama every time his faith was called into question from the time he ran for president.

Didn't Falwell Jr get behind Trump even before the primaries/caucuses started? I mean that was a point where options still at least appeared to exist.

It's fine if they want to back Trump, but I don't see how one can claim to hold all these religious values and then go enthusiastically back Trump, a man who seems like he was designed in a laboratory to be the most effective (in theory) candidate in repelling religious people. At this point, I think everyone who supported Trump should do some moral inventory and decide which they actually care about, and what means more to them - principles/morals or power?

It's a shame that the same grace wasn't extended to Barack Obama every time his faith was called into question from the time he ran for president.

That's some Grade A American Partisanship for you. If it is good for anything, it's laughs for when the brazen hypocrisy and shallow logic reaches comical levels.

Why does there have to be a choice between a persons religion or Trump? Either you voted for him or you didn't leaving the religion aspect aside.

[hopper]

I could easily see the Christian conservatives break off and form a new 3rd party in 5-10 years. The new GOP is nothing like the old guard GOP of the 1980s-2000s.

I would like to see the new GOP be a cross on economic issues between Pre- Reagan(pre-1980) and post Reagan(1980+) and not be so heavy on the side of tax cuts.