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« on: March 20, 2017, 07:40:39 pm »
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House Speaker Paul Ryan is chosen as the GOP presidential candidate in Cleveland at the Republican Nat'l Convention as a compromise choice after the raucous GOP primaries and Trump's rise. He faces off against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee. Who wins?
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2017, 07:49:38 pm »
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Ryan wins 299-239. Not sure about Maine though.

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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2017, 07:52:59 pm »
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Former Secretary Hilllary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA): 332 EVs, 50.40%
Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)/Governor Nikki Haley (R-SC): 206 EVs, 48.21%
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2017, 12:34:39 am »
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295: Paul Ryan/Brian Sandoval - 48.4%
243: Hillary Clinton/Brian Schatz - 46.9%
Others - 4.7%

Ryan gets a 53-47 R Senate majority(Kirk, Ayotte, Frazier(CO), and Heck win, but Bayh, Feingold, and Sestak also win) and a 234-201 House majority led by Speaker Cathy McMorris Rodgers. Louie Gohmert, Gary Palmer, Raul Labrador, Jim Bridenstine, Mo Brooks, and Jeff Duncan are some of the loudest voices against Rodgers, but they usually fall in line for fiscal matters. Steve King, Steve Scalise, Steven Palazzo, Joe Wilson, Joe Barton, and Ted Yoho are called the Three Steves, the Two Joes, and One Ted. Steve Scalise wins fourteen to sixteen votes every time, as Justin Amash, Greg Walden, Dave Brat, and Bradley Byrne manage to rally their friends. The Unstable Union holds for Ryan to pass minor reforms, his most significant achievement being passing the Wyden-Ryan - well, now Wyden-Brat - healthcare bills. Mario Diaz-Balart, Tom Price, Tom McClintock, Jason Lewis, and John Faso all vote for it, giving it more than enough votes to pass the House Finance Committee.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2017, 11:18:24 am »
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Hillary wins 307-231

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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2017, 01:33:12 pm »
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Clinton wins by a hair, because once at least a portion of the swing voters up here in the midwest get to know Ryan's real policy goals.....
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2017, 02:12:42 pm »
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I think Hillary wins quite comfortably. Wikileaks would probanly leak much less about her since Ryan is no different about Russia, and we should also take into account the angry Trump supporters who would absolutely despise Ryan as everything they hate in the establishment.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2017, 07:29:26 pm »
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Hillary wins 307-231


Comfortable with this projection.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2017, 07:52:02 pm »
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Ryan/Rubio 298
Clinton/Warren 240
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2017, 11:59:21 pm »
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Hillary wins 307-231


Comfortable with this projection.

I would swap WI and OH tbh, even with 2016 OTL result in mind
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2017, 12:02:33 am »
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I would want Ryan to pick Mitt Romney as VP

mainly so that they lose
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2017, 09:25:40 pm »
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Hillary would have still lost Ohio and maybe Wisconsin. She holds on to Pennsylvania and Michigan and wins Florida.

Clinton- 297
Ryan- 241
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