AHCA Whip Count

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I am no fan of the bill. I would still like to see Obamacare be replaced, but the probable failure of AHCA is fine by me.

[Gass3268]

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[Ronnie]

According to new updates on The Hill, the bill is only two "hard" No's away from certain failure.  Combined "hard" and "soft" No's equal 27.

[Maxwell]

Leonard Lance is now a firm no.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Looks like it's time for Medicaid for all.

[Person Man]

Looks like it's time for Medicaid for all.

Care or Aid?

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Interesting that Trump is roughly paralleling Obama. Entering office with a majority in both houses, immediately pivoting to healthcare, putting together a compromise bill that no one likes and spending an inordinate amount of political capital on it. (The possible difference being that Obama did get something passed.)

[The Other Castro]

From a Republican Congressman already on the NO list:

Thomas Massie‏ @RepThomasMassie  56m56 minutes ago
275 oppose vs 4 support #ObamaCareLite.  Phone calls to my office from constituents over last two weeks.  Why are we voting on this?


This is why you should always contact your Congressman and Senators. Sometimes it really does have an impact.

[Maxwell]

From a Republican Congressman already on the NO list:

Thomas Massie‏ @RepThomasMassie  56m56 minutes ago
275 oppose vs 4 support #ObamaCareLite.  Phone calls to my office from constituents over last two weeks.  Why are we voting on this?


This is why you should always contact your Congressman and Senators. Sometimes it really does have an impact.

I doubt Thomas Massie (of the FREEDOM CAUCUS and a generally Amash-Paul wing politician) was ever going to support TryunandFailuncare, but it's a nice anecdote at least.

[Santander]

Interesting that Trump is roughly paralleling Obama. Entering office with a majority in both houses, immediately pivoting to healthcare, putting together a compromise bill that no one likes and spending an inordinate amount of political capital on it. (The possible difference being that Obama did get something passed.)

Runeghost posted something that wasn't completely insane???

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Interesting that Trump is roughly paralleling Obama. Entering office with a majority in both houses, immediately pivoting to healthcare, putting together a compromise bill that no one likes and spending an inordinate amount of political capital on it. (The possible difference being that Obama did get something passed.)

The new version of the bill even has a special earmark attached to it to lure votes.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Interesting that Trump is roughly paralleling Obama. Entering office with a majority in both houses, immediately pivoting to healthcare, putting together a compromise bill that no one likes and spending an inordinate amount of political capital on it. (The possible difference being that Obama did get something passed.)

If you compare Obama's and Trump's approval ratings in their early presidencies one might say that Trump does't really have any capital to begin with.

[Ronnie]

Now that Ted Budd has said no, Republicans can only afford to lose one more vote to save the bill.

EDIT:

Mo Brooks will vote no.  The bill in its current form is dead.

[adrac]

Now that Ted Budd has said no, Republicans can only afford to lose one more vote to save the bill.

EDIT:

Mo Brooks will vote no.  The bill in its current form is dead.

The Hill also has 22, but thanks to someone else.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Now that Ted Budd has said no, Republicans can only afford to lose one more vote to save the bill.

EDIT:

Mo Brooks will vote no.  The bill in its current form is dead.

At this point I'll be shocked if Ryan doesn't hold off the vote.

[Ronnie]

Now that Ted Budd has said no, Republicans can only afford to lose one more vote to save the bill.

EDIT:

Mo Brooks will vote no.  The bill in its current form is dead.

At this point I'll be shocked if Ryan doesn't hold off the vote.

What's the point of doing that, though?  To bring enough people back into the fold, he'd need to shift the bill significantly to the right, and therefore, completely kill any prospect it might have had of passing in the senate.

[Gass3268]

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[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Now that Ted Budd has said no, Republicans can only afford to lose one more vote to save the bill.

EDIT:

Mo Brooks will vote no.  The bill in its current form is dead.

At this point I'll be shocked if Ryan doesn't hold off the vote.

What's the point of doing that, though?  To bring enough people back into the fold, he'd need to shift the bill significantly to the right, and therefore, completely kill any prospect it might have had of passing in the senate.

If it's DOA, then there's really no point in holding a vote because all it will represent is a toxic midterm vote for endangered incumbents.  Though I guess now Ryan is betting on the "we tried it" approach instead.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

The GOP agenda is imploding before our very eyes folks, this is beautiful.

[Gass3268]

Matt Fuller of Huffington Post:

[Brittain33]

"Tax reform" is not likely. I'm confident Trump can pull together a good old-fashioned tax cut.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Now that Ted Budd has said no, Republicans can only afford to lose one more vote to save the bill.

EDIT:

Mo Brooks will vote no.  The bill in its current form is dead.

At this point I'll be shocked if Ryan doesn't hold off the vote.

What's the point of doing that, though?  To bring enough people back into the fold, he'd need to shift the bill significantly to the right, and therefore, completely kill any prospect it might have had of passing in the senate.

If it's DOA, then there's really no point in holding a vote because all it will represent is a toxic midterm vote for endangered incumbents.  Though I guess now Ryan is betting on the "we tried it" approach instead.

Ryan/other leadership said something a few weeks back along the lines of "We ultimately believe it will be very difficult for our members to vote against repealing ObamaCare when they actually have to do it on the house floor".


As a proud supporter of the majority of ObamaCare, it's very comforting to me to see all this opposition to the AHCA, but I still fear it could pass the house somehow.

[Maxwell]

Interesting that Trump is roughly paralleling Obama. Entering office with a majority in both houses, immediately pivoting to healthcare, putting together a compromise bill that no one likes and spending an inordinate amount of political capital on it. (The possible difference being that Obama did get something passed.)

If you compare Obama's and Trump's approval ratings in their early presidencies one might say that Trump does't really have any capital to begin with.

herein is the problem with the Trump administration from the start - they thought just because they won and nobody expected it, that they would have insurmountable political capital. The GOP, too, thought they would get a beating in the Senate and only lost two seats, so they thought we can do whatever we want. As it turns out, you don't get a mandate for getting 3 million less votes.

[Virginiá]

It seems to me that anyone who wins is going to claim they have a mandate, regardless of how contradictory the evidence for such is.

[Gass3268]

NBC's whip count: