AHCA Whip Count

[Gass3268]

Sounds like the vote is going to get pulled, at least for today.

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[Gass3268]

TIL there are no women in the Freedom Caucus.

[Santander]

TIL there are no women in the Freedom Caucus.

Further proof that women are better than men.

[The Other Castro]

Sounds like the vote is going to get pulled, at least for today.

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Seems all those people saying they had the votes to pass were wrong, surprise surprise.

[The Other Castro]

If it is delayed, this is probably why:

Ben Kamisar‏ @bkamisar  21m21 minutes ago
Freedom Caucus members streaming out of WH now. All say no deal made, no "firm" changes agreed to.


If they vote today, it will fail.

[Gass3268]

Sounds like the vote is going to get pulled, at least for today.

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Seems all those people saying they had the votes to pass were wrong, surprise surprise.

Plus the talk of appeasing the Freedom Caucus pushed out folks from the middle like Dent and Smith.

[Gass3268]

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[KingSweden]

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There you go. This thing isn't happening today.

Wonder if they start from scratch now

[Gass3268]

Sounds like even if they give the Freedom Caucus all they want, the moderates will then walk away. Almost no way to needle this through.

[Gass3268]

Looks like Amodei is leaning no

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[Ronnie]

Sounds like even if they give the Freedom Caucus all they want, the moderates will then walk away. Almost no way to needle this through.

And even if they somehow succeed, the senate will just kill the bill on its own and put forward its own bill.  What's the point of all this?

[Middle-aged Europe]

Sounds like even if they give the Freedom Caucus all they want, the moderates will then walk away. Almost no way to needle this through.

And even if they somehow succeed, the senate will just kill the bill on its own and put forward its own bill.  What's the point of all this?

Trump and Ryan showing to the world that at least they had been serious about repealing Obamacare.

[Ronnie]

Sounds like even if they give the Freedom Caucus all they want, the moderates will then walk away. Almost no way to needle this through.

And even if they somehow succeed, the senate will just kill the bill on its own and put forward its own bill.  What's the point of all this?

Trump and Ryan showing to the world that at least they had been serious about repealing Obamacare.

Is that going to be their argument in 2018?  "Vote for us because we were serious about repealing Obamacare"?

[Middle-aged Europe]

Sounds like even if they give the Freedom Caucus all they want, the moderates will then walk away. Almost no way to needle this through.

And even if they somehow succeed, the senate will just kill the bill on its own and put forward its own bill.  What's the point of all this?

Trump and Ryan showing to the world that at least they had been serious about repealing Obamacare.

Is that going to be their argument in 2018?  "Vote for us because we were serious about repealing Obamacare"?

It seems like they haven't really any alternatives.

[Tartarus Sauce]

Sounds like even if they give the Freedom Caucus all they want, the moderates will then walk away. Almost no way to needle this through.

And even if they somehow succeed, the senate will just kill the bill on its own and put forward its own bill.  What's the point of all this?

Trump and Ryan showing to the world that at least they had been serious about repealing Obamacare.

Is that going to be their argument in 2018?  "Vote for us because we were serious about repealing Obamacare"?

It seems like they haven't really any alternatives.

Unfortunately for them, voters don't provide mulligans for "trying."

[The Other Castro]

FWIW:

Edward-Isaac Dovere‏ @IsaacDovere  21m21 minutes ago
Sean Spicer, on the possibility of canceling the Obamacare repeal vote: "nothing leads me to believe that that's the case"

Mark Murray‏ @mmurraypolitics  5m5 minutes ago
"It's going to pass. So that's it" -- Spicer on what happens if House bill doesn't pass tonight.

[Ronnie]

FWIW:

It's worth nothing.  Spicer lies through his teeth every single day.

[Devout Centrist]

FWIW:

Edward-Isaac Dovere‏ @IsaacDovere  21m21 minutes ago
Sean Spicer, on the possibility of canceling the Obamacare repeal vote: "nothing leads me to believe that that's the case"

Mark Murray‏ @mmurraypolitics  5m5 minutes ago
"It's going to pass. So that's it" -- Spicer on what happens if House bill doesn't pass tonight.

Ryan has a death wish. Maybe Trump put him up to this so he'd fail.

[Gass3268]

It's official now:

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[Helsinkian]

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http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/325448-poll-majority-of-voters-disapprove-of-gop-obamacare-repeal-plan

[KingSweden]

FWIW:

It's worth nothing.  Spicer lies through his teeth every single day.

Exactly. I'd believe the House GOPers attacking this from left and right, not the WH PR flack

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Looking forward to an unsuccessful vote tonight

[Tintrlvr]

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that, if a vote is actually held tonight, there will be less than 200 votes in favor. Once it's obviously failing, many moderates and far-right conservatives who aren't speaking up now will abandon the bill.

[Crumpets]

Wait, so the vote is tonight? I step away from the computer for an hour and we go back to "definitely tonight, definitely going to fail"?

[Tartarus Sauce]

Looking forward to an unsuccessful vote tonight