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« Reply #175 on: March 23, 2017, 01:54:48 PM »

FWIW:

Edward-Isaac Dovere‏ @IsaacDovere  21m21 minutes ago
Sean Spicer, on the possibility of canceling the Obamacare repeal vote: "nothing leads me to believe that that's the case"

Mark Murray‏ @mmurraypolitics  5m5 minutes ago
"It's going to pass. So that's it" -- Spicer on what happens if House bill doesn't pass tonight.
Ryan has a death wish. Maybe Trump put him up to this so he'd fail.

Guessing this is one more example of Trump's reality denial / Dunning-Kruger in action, and he forced Ryan to go ahead with the vote (via threats and whining, he obviously can't actually order it). Presuming that Ryan & Co can't beat enough votes into line, it will be very educational to see what happens when it fails. (I'd expect an epic meltdown on twitter.)
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« Reply #176 on: March 23, 2017, 02:17:40 PM »

Amodei being opposed makes me think this is really going to fail - I wouldn't characterize Amodei as a particularly conservative or moderate house member. He's right in the center of the GOP ideological spectrum.
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« Reply #177 on: March 23, 2017, 02:19:20 PM »

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Can we take this moment to acknowledge that Nancy Pelosi was a much better Speaker than both Paul Ryan and John Boehner. Regardless of your political views, she knew how to perfectly manage and maneuver a majority.
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« Reply #178 on: March 23, 2017, 02:20:46 PM »

Looking forward to an unsuccessful vote tonight

I don't think they'll have a vote.  They'll just pull the bill and try to move on to tax reform.
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« Reply #179 on: March 23, 2017, 02:21:29 PM »

Jonathan Bernstein is making sense:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-23/paul-ryan-is-trying-to-save-himself

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« Reply #180 on: March 23, 2017, 02:27:33 PM »



Reuters: REPUBLICAN SENATORS BEING TOLD BY MCCONNELL THAT HOUSE NOT LIKELY TO VOTE ON HEALTHCARE BILL UNTIL MONDAY -SENIOR SENATE AIDE

https://twitter.com/SteveKopack/status/844991892857204736
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« Reply #181 on: March 23, 2017, 02:33:30 PM »

Sources say vote has been postponed till tomorrow at the earliest
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« Reply #182 on: March 23, 2017, 02:35:03 PM »
« Edited: March 23, 2017, 02:45:19 PM by Baki »

Politico:
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Sad!
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« Reply #183 on: March 23, 2017, 02:36:18 PM »

lol Ryan
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« Reply #184 on: March 23, 2017, 02:38:16 PM »
« Edited: March 23, 2017, 02:39:52 PM by Ronnie »

Why was it so critical for them to pass it tonight?  I think it might be good for them to take a breather, and figure out exactly what they want to do.
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« Reply #185 on: March 23, 2017, 02:38:31 PM »

let's find out how long they need to square the circle.
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« Reply #186 on: March 23, 2017, 02:39:13 PM »

TBT to literally two hours ago:

"Nothing leads me to believe that that's the case."
-Sean Spicer, on whether the vote will be postponed
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« Reply #187 on: March 23, 2017, 02:39:33 PM »

Too bad.
I was really looking forward to seeing it fail miserably.
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« Reply #188 on: March 23, 2017, 02:40:21 PM »

TBT to literally two hours ago:

"Nothing leads me to believe that that's the case."
-Sean Spicer, on whether the vote will be postponed

Sean Spicer swallows gum. Nuff said. No reason to listen to him.
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« Reply #189 on: March 23, 2017, 02:43:21 PM »

TBT to literally two hours ago:

"Nothing leads me to believe that that's the case."
-Sean Spicer, on whether the vote will be postponed

Sean Spicer swallows gum. Nuff said. No reason to listen to him.

How much does he have to lie to compel the press to stop legitimizing him?  Major media outlets should begin boycotting his press briefings, pronto.
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« Reply #190 on: March 23, 2017, 02:43:38 PM »

House Bleach Drinking caucus wins again!
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« Reply #191 on: March 23, 2017, 02:46:26 PM »

By the way, Bobby Rush will most likely be back next week if they do vote on Monday, so that means the number of votes the GOP could afford to lose has gone back down to 21.
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« Reply #192 on: March 23, 2017, 02:50:25 PM »

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« Reply #193 on: March 23, 2017, 02:53:35 PM »

This won't get any easier for them.
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« Reply #194 on: March 23, 2017, 02:54:59 PM »

Well then, since they claim they've got the votes, I expect a vote at the first break of dawn.
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« Reply #195 on: March 23, 2017, 02:56:35 PM »

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White House is sending other messages.
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« Reply #196 on: March 23, 2017, 02:58:08 PM »

Trump just said that he is looking forward to the house vote today.

who is going to tell him?
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« Reply #197 on: March 23, 2017, 03:00:16 PM »

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White House is sending other messages.

They want to hold the vote while the West Coast is still asleep, I see.
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« Reply #198 on: March 23, 2017, 03:04:09 PM »

Thomas Massie kind of just tears this bill apart
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« Reply #199 on: March 23, 2017, 03:07:47 PM »

do you like twists?

Freedom Caucus Chair Meadows discussing assurances needed: "If we can make sure there is an adequate safety net ..."

https://twitter.com/CalebHowe/status/845002195691032582
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