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« Reply #275 on: March 23, 2017, 09:09:35 PM »
This has been the best political theater of my lifetime.  The Trump Presidency has set a high bar with his first bill.  Hopefully he can keep it up!
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« Reply #276 on: March 23, 2017, 09:12:45 PM »
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3 things.

1) this "crap sandwich with trump mustard" (quote ben shapiro) IS going to pass tomorrow.

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https://twitter.com/scottwongDC/status/845083770495680512

2) trump is annoyed that ryan convinced him to go with healthcare first...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/us/politics/trump-health-care-bill-regrets.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/845085297213931520

3) trump also says, ryan has bungled the process of HC reform.....blaming all on the speaker.

https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/845090579214159874

I don't think Wong quoting some random lawmaker is enough evidence a deal has been made
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« Reply #277 on: March 23, 2017, 09:32:49 PM »
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That's David Young of Iowa. Those four look like locks to vote no.
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« Reply #278 on: March 23, 2017, 09:36:05 PM »
All the evidence is pointing to a defeat, there are more Republicans who are turning against the bill than deciding to support it
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« Reply #279 on: March 23, 2017, 09:37:30 PM »
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All the evidence is pointing to a defeat, there are more Republicans who are turning against the bill than deciding to support it

yes, atm but i am of a feeling, the WH and leadership are going to threaten the shoot out of all no votes this night.
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« Reply #280 on: March 23, 2017, 09:44:09 PM »
new pro-moderate amendment worth 15 billions.






The new amendment includes another $15B side deal to win moderate votes: McSally, Stefanik, MacArthur & Murphy.
https://twitter.com/mikedebonis/status/845101294452981761

https://rules.house.gov/sites/republicans.rules.house.gov/files/115/policymngr-amdt.pdf
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« Reply #281 on: March 23, 2017, 09:45:50 PM »
I have no idea how this is going to go tomorrow, but this is such a giant mess. Even if it passes it gets even harder in the Senate next week, especially that it will probably needs to get 60 votes now that they are getting rid of the essential services section.
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« Reply #282 on: March 23, 2017, 09:46:36 PM »
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new pro-moderate amendment worth 15 billions.






The new amendment includes another $15B side deal to win moderate votes: McSally, Stefanik, MacArthur & Murphy.
https://twitter.com/mikedebonis/status/845101294452981761

https://rules.house.gov/sites/republicans.rules.house.gov/files/115/policymngr-amdt.pdf

Only MacArthur was up in the air.
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« Reply #283 on: March 23, 2017, 09:50:31 PM »
Quote from: ApatheticAustrian on March 23, 2017, 09:44:09 PM
new pro-moderate amendment worth 15 billions.






The new amendment includes another $15B side deal to win moderate votes: McSally, Stefanik, MacArthur & Murphy.
https://twitter.com/mikedebonis/status/845101294452981761

https://rules.house.gov/sites/republicans.rules.house.gov/files/115/policymngr-amdt.pdf
But what about people new to the system?
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« Reply #284 on: March 23, 2017, 09:56:01 PM »
All of those people were already voting for the bill.
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« Reply #285 on: March 23, 2017, 10:02:54 PM »
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All the evidence is pointing to a defeat, there are more Republicans who are turning against the bill than deciding to support it

yes, atm but i am of a feeling, the WH and leadership are going to threaten the shoot out of all no votes this night.

Sure. But the question now is how many congressmen believe Trump has any such leverage.
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« Reply #286 on: March 23, 2017, 10:03:41 PM »


https://twitter.com/katherinemiller/status/845106739200577536
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/us/politics/trump-health-care-bill-regrets.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur


pence must be a breitbart hero.
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« Reply #287 on: March 23, 2017, 10:07:57 PM »
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« Reply #288 on: March 23, 2017, 10:09:56 PM »
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« Reply #289 on: March 23, 2017, 10:32:20 PM »
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« Reply #290 on: March 23, 2017, 10:43:09 PM »
Rep Massie earlier today said he expects at least 41 Republicans to vote NO on the bill.
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« Reply #291 on: March 23, 2017, 10:43:58 PM »
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Hah good luck on the next task. You're relationship is in great shape!
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« Reply #292 on: March 23, 2017, 10:46:54 PM »
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Hah good luck on the next task. You're relationship is in great shape!
Just a reminder we haven't reached 100 days yet
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« Reply #293 on: March 23, 2017, 10:55:10 PM »
hold on i thought his political insticts were grade A! That's what I was told!
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« Reply #294 on: March 23, 2017, 10:56:28 PM »
I have a question: If a vote is held and midway through it becomes clear it won't pass, is it possible for Ryan to suspend voting and continue negotiating with the people he thought would be on his side, or does the bill have to fail before they can renegotiate it?
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« Reply #295 on: March 23, 2017, 11:02:08 PM »
https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/845098137299636225

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« Reply #296 on: March 23, 2017, 11:08:11 PM »

Yep that was my impression. If this fails, Ryan's ass is grass
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« Reply #297 on: March 23, 2017, 11:14:14 PM »
If Ryan resigns, who might replace him as speaker?
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« Reply #298 on: March 23, 2017, 11:28:54 PM »
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If Ryan resigns, who might replace him as speaker?

Kevin McCarthy, maybe?
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« Reply #299 on: March 23, 2017, 11:39:46 PM »
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Quote from: Ronnie on March 23, 2017, 11:14:14 PM
If Ryan resigns, who might replace him as speaker?

Kevin McCarthy, maybe?

Lol that would make everyone involved look ridiculous.
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