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Looks like the bill is dead. The only question now is whether or not Ryan is going to defy the President and pull the bill.

Ryan ought to hit back hard on Trump for forcing him to hold the vote now, rather than waiting and negotiating more.

[Crumpets]

Looks like the bill is dead. The only question now is whether or not Ryan is going to defy the President and pull the bill.

I agree at this point the bill being withdrawn (at least temporarily, for more behind-the-scenes negotiating) is more likely than the bill passing the House.

[Gass3268]

DOW and the dollar are both falling.

[Middle-aged Europe]

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[publicunofficial]

Democrats are gathered on the House floor ready for a vote, reportedly "smiling and making jokes about the bill"

[ApatheticAustrian]

voting was scheduled to be starting now, eh?

[publicunofficial]

Breaking News: It's pulled. They don't have the votes.

[Gass3268]

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[kyc0705]

Breaking News: It's pulled. They don't have the votes.

shocker /s

[ApatheticAustrian]

Cowards

[yankeesfan]

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He's trying to take credit for pulling it?

What a disaster

[Gass3268]

THE ART OF FAILURE! dumpsterfire.gif

[publicunofficial]

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Spoiler alert: He's gonna blame Paul Ryan.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Hearing from multiple GOP sources that leadership is desperate to pull this bill.
https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/845340361698541568

Nothing is stopping Ryan from pulling the bill. It's ultimately his decision, not the President's.

They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. If Ryan pulls the bill, Trump will blame him. If they hold a floor vote and it fails, Trump will blame Ryan anyway. Trump has already committed to throwing Ryan under the bus, easy to do since Breitbart and Co. have been setting him up as a fall guy for months.

I can't tell if trashing Ryan like this would be a brilliant bit of political backstabbing (removing a prime alternative locus of power to Trump in the GOP), or a self-destructive side-show that does the party lasting damage with no real return (the equivalent of a man setting his house on fire as a distraction from the fact that he just crashed and destroyed the family car).

[Hindsight was 2020]

The deal maker XD

[Devout Centrist]

https://youtu.be/j30YsJwuLps

Live recording from the floor of the House of Representatives

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Is he going to follow through on his threat? Or claim he never made it to begin with? Or will he just do the used car salesman dance and try to weasel out of it?

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Hahaha what a fail. Republicans can't govern at all.

[OneJ]

Democrats are gathered on the House floor ready for a vote, reportedly "smiling and making jokes about the bill"

LOL!

[ApatheticAustrian]

"I don't blame Paul," Trump tells me
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/845358347801055233

[Gass3268]

After the bill was pulled:

[EnglishPete]

[quote Congressor=Tartarus Sauce link=topic=261081.msg5581732#msg5581732 date=1490381693]

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Nothing is stopping Ryan from pulling the bill. It's ultimately his decision, not the President's.

They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. If Ryan pulls the bill, Trump will blame him. If they hold a floor vote and it fails, Trump will blame Ryan anyway. Trump has already committed to throwing Ryan under the bus, easy to do since Breitbart and Co. have been setting him up as a fall guy for months.
[/quote]I'm glad they've found a way to clip his wings. Paul "I'm just not there yet" Ryan is an open borders advocate who couldn't wait to back away from Trump during the election. The Dem leadership have made it very clear that they want Trump out of office, either by impeachment on this bogus Trump/Russia story they're pushing or if that doesn't work by the 25th Amendment. Some Republicans clearly sympathise with that position (e.g. John McCain) but are not saying it openly. Either method requires the backing of the House (Republican) leadership.

If this bill fails it will severely undermine Paul Ryan's, and indeed the entire House Republican's, credibility. Trump has also mentioned the possibility of causing problems for R Congressmen opposing him, presumably that means backing Primary challenges to them.

What all that would mean is that if in the future Ryan even thinks about puling any of that "it is with a heavy heart" crap with Trump's Presidency then he knows that he would have no strength or credibility to withstand the total onslaught from team Trump that would follow.

[MasterJedi]

We have a Drumpsterfire here folks! HAH!

[Devout Centrist]

Guess the American People got tired of winning

[EnglishPete]

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Don't think of an Elephant!