AHCA Whip Count

[emailking]

We need to get rid of Bannon, not Priebus.  Only movement conservatives should advise Trump.

-You have learned nothing. Priebus and Ryan should go out the window. Bannon should take over as VP.

That requires both Pence deciding to resign, and a majority vote for Bannon in both the House and (particularly) the Senate. Seems pretty unlikely.

[EnglishPete]

according to current rumours, not Ryan but Priebus is going to fall on this sword.


Source close to @POTUS says he's being advised to replace @Reince45 & is open to possibility -- healthcare was last straw
https://twitter.com/tarapalmeri/status/845696980416430080

Its not either/or. They could be both on their way out.

The President tweeted the following last night

@RealDonaldTrump
Watch @JudgeJeanine on @FoxNews tonight at 9:00 P.M.

Its unusual for Trump to tweet out specific TV program recommendations like that. And how did Judge Jeanine start her show that evening?

https://youtube.com//watch?v=OOEspEqGq3E

[Crumpets]

according to current rumours, not Ryan but Priebus is going to fall on this sword.


Source close to @POTUS says he's being advised to replace @Reince45 & is open to possibility -- healthcare was last straw
https://twitter.com/tarapalmeri/status/845696980416430080

Its not either/or. They could be both on their way out.

The President tweeted the following last night

@RealDonaldTrump
Watch @JudgeJeanine on @FoxNews tonight at 9:00 P.M.

Its unusual for Trump to tweet out specific TV program recommendations like that. And how did Judge Jeanine start her show that evening?

https://youtube.com//watch?v=OOEspEqGq3E

Interesting. I wonder how Trump knew what was going to be on her show...

[ApatheticAustrian]

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https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/846092051758436353

[publicunofficial]

I don't know why everyone is blaming the Freedom Caucus, most of whom were willing to cave.

Conservative anger SHOULD be directed at the moderates who wanted to keep the Medicaid expansion and the like.

[hopper]

I don't know why everyone is blaming the Freedom Caucus, most of whom were willing to cave.

Conservative anger SHOULD be directed at the moderates who wanted to keep the Medicaid expansion and the like.

"The Freedom Caucus" wasn't going to cave. I agree halfway with you though that both "The Freedom Caucus" and "The Tuesday Group" killed the bill though.

Moderates do want to keep the Medicaid Expansion because Hillary Clinton either won or came close to winning those Congressional Districts or Seats that Moderate Republicans sit in.

[hopper]

I don't think people realize how bad Trump's negotiation skills were here.

-Doesn't know anything about healthcare policy, so he can't come up with proposals on his own.

-Publically says he will go after Mark Meadows if he votes no. This makes a situation where Meadows will be humiliated if he switches his vote to yes.

Just all over the place bad.

His negotiation skills are not to blame its the bill that was bad.

[hopper]

We need to get rid of Bannon, not Priebus.  Only movement conservatives should advise Trump.

-You have learned nothing. Priebus and Ryan should go out the window. Bannon should take over as VP.

Bannon is not gonna be VP.

[hopper]

Fantastic news.  Great to see this monstrous administration humiliated.  More importantly, millions of people will keep their health coverage for now.

The administration would have been humiliated had the bill actually went through and passed. They saved themselves from embarrassment.

[Maxwell]

Blame should lay with Paul Ryan trying to sell a literal turd as a healthcare bill.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Blame should lay with Paul Ryan trying to sell a literal turd as a healthcare bill.

That's not fair; it's pretty common for a turd to have a little bit of substance in it (I assume).  The healthcare bill had none.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Blame should lay with Paul Ryan trying to sell a literal turd as a healthcare bill.

Why? The GOP doesn't seem to have any problem with having one as President.

[hopper]

Blame should lay with Paul Ryan trying to sell a literal turd as a healthcare bill.

The bill was even unpopular or had lukewarm popularity in GOP Congressional Districts. Nate Silver had some data on his website of the popularity of the GOP Healthcare Bill by Congressional District on his website.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Report: Ryan pleaded on one knee for ObamaCare repeal vote
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/325865-report-ryan-pleaded-on-one-knee-for-obamacare-repeal-vote

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[EnglishPete]

Blame should lay with Paul Ryan trying to sell a literal turd as a healthcare bill.

I wonder if conspiracy theory aficionados might get this reference

[Santander]

Report: Ryan pleaded on one knee for ObamaCare repeal vote
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/325865-report-ryan-pleaded-on-one-knee-for-obamacare-repeal-vote

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This is beautiful.

[The Other Castro]

Report: Ryan pleaded on one knee for ObamaCare repeal vote
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/325865-report-ryan-pleaded-on-one-knee-for-obamacare-repeal-vote

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This is beautiful.

Ryan should probably step down. How can Republicans in Congress be expected to respect and follow a man that does something like that?

[ApatheticAustrian]

Report: Ryan pleaded on one knee for ObamaCare repeal vote
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/325865-report-ryan-pleaded-on-one-knee-for-obamacare-repeal-vote

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This is beautiful.

Ryan should probably step down. How can Republicans in Congress be expected to respect and follow a man that does something like that?

simple question ...which is also an answer......who else would want to do that job?

[Middle-aged Europe]

Report: Ryan pleaded on one knee for ObamaCare repeal vote
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/325865-report-ryan-pleaded-on-one-knee-for-obamacare-repeal-vote

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That sounds like something straight out of House of Cards.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Report: Ryan pleaded on one knee for ObamaCare repeal vote
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/325865-report-ryan-pleaded-on-one-knee-for-obamacare-repeal-vote

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This is beautiful.

It really is.

[Tintrlvr]

Report: Ryan pleaded on one knee for ObamaCare repeal vote
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/325865-report-ryan-pleaded-on-one-knee-for-obamacare-repeal-vote

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This is beautiful.

Ryan should probably step down. How can Republicans in Congress be expected to respect and follow a man that does something like that?

simple question ...which is also an answer......who else would want to do that job?

I'm not even certain the Republicans would be capable of electing a replacement Speaker. The Freedom Caucus might demand one of their own, and, without the Freedom Caucus, the Republicans don't have a majority.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Came across the following gallery on incur that explains what happened in a way easily understood by gamers.

http://m.imgur.com/gallery/bQxx9

[Dr. Arch]

So the Republicans shoddily put something together quickly and then just give up on it?

I'd be curious how Republican voters here feel about this, since it was Republicans' number one campaign promise (to repeal Obamacare)...

Also, considering they had been talking about repealing Obamacare for ages, why didn't they have a plan in place?

Because it was a political prop and nothing else. They're not interested in actually governing or legislating for their constituents (i.e., the people who vote for them). They're just interested in being in power. The present-day Republican party is a shadow of its former self.

[Dr. Arch]

So the Republicans shoddily put something together quickly and then just give up on it?

I'd be curious how Republican voters here feel about this, since it was Republicans' number one campaign promise (to repeal Obamacare)...

Also, considering they had been talking about repealing Obamacare for ages, why didn't they have a plan in place?

Because it was a political prop and nothing else. They're not interested in actually governing or legislating for their constituents (i.e., the people who vote for them). They're just interested in being in power. The present-day Republican party is a shadow of its former self.

I don't think that's it.  There's something else going on here.

No, that's really it. They've done nothing in the last 4 months. The ACA was the Republican plan. Why would they want to repeal it? They just had to act like they did to follow up on the prop. Once it failed, they dropped it immediately when they didn't have to. They still have all the freedom to legislate something new or, lord forbid, improve the ACA, but that's not what they want.

[publicunofficial]

So the Republicans shoddily put something together quickly and then just give up on it?

I'd be curious how Republican voters here feel about this, since it was Republicans' number one campaign promise (to repeal Obamacare)...

Also, considering they had been talking about repealing Obamacare for ages, why didn't they have a plan in place?

Because it was a political prop and nothing else. They're not interested in actually governing or legislating for their constituents (i.e., the people who vote for them). They're just interested in being in power. The present-day Republican party is a shadow of its former self.

I don't think that's it.  There's something else going on here.

No. Republicans don't like Obamacare, but unlike their base are smart enough to realize America's healthcare system pre-ACA is not something anyone wants to go back to (Except for NIMBY Virginians, apparently...). There's nothing they could propose to satisfy both sides.