Kentucky Passes 'Blue Lives Matter' Law making it hate crime to attack cops
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« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2017, 04:46:20 PM »

Seems like an easier solution would be to just make it illegal to be a cop.
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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2017, 02:59:27 PM »

"Blue lives matter" is a racist joke of a slogan anyway.
Not everything you disagree with is "racist" Roll Eyes
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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2017, 03:34:01 PM »

I think people need to show more deference to the police. The police are not the ones to send one to long prison terms or to Death Row; the courts of law do that.
 
Because most meetings with the police are at traffic stops, some states have been introducing simulated traffic stops in driver's training. Having been stopped four times in the last ten years (three for speeding and one for suspected DUI -- It was 1AM, I was tired upon leaving the hospital after taking my father there, and a traffic sign confused me -- and I saw a car with its lights out and was concerned that it was someone planning to rear end me in an insurance fraud... the car was a state police car whose driver was on "drunk patrol". I had not been drinking, which the state trooper quickly ascertained after pulling me over).

Drive sober or get pulled over? Drive sober and you still might get pulled over.   
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« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2017, 06:46:30 PM »

Fck bootlickers.
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« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2017, 07:43:31 PM »
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Does Kentucky even have enough minorities for you to call their police officers terrorists?
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« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2017, 08:32:38 PM »

Do we have a hate crimes statute for attacking people for having 'noble' professions?

Many criminals think it acceptable to attack and even kill people for being prostitutes. Should we have a hate crimes statute for that?

Ethnicity, race, religion, handicap, social class, and gender identity might be cause to have protections against crimes directed at people for what they are. Genocide and genocide-like crimes are the definitive hate crimes, and the path to those crimes begins with smaller-scale hate crimes.

Hate crimes statutes are ordinarily leveled at crimes less egregious than murder.  I can see how "Class of '20" or "Eddie + Susan 4ever" as graffiti are much less troublesome than a swastika or Nazi slogans daubed on 'Temple Beth Shalom'. "Off a Pig Today" on a cop's property? Interesting comparison. 

Isn't the theory behind hate crimes legislation the idea that someone is terrorizing all members of a group through their actions?  In that case I don't see why we wouldn't have those protections for prostitutes.
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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2017, 11:15:02 PM »

Funny how you never have any White people showing up to interject by declaring "all lives matter" when "blue lives matter" laws are being discussed.
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« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2017, 02:31:57 AM »

Do we have a hate crimes statute for attacking people for having 'noble' professions?

Many criminals think it acceptable to attack and even kill people for being prostitutes. Should we have a hate crimes statute for that?

Ethnicity, race, religion, handicap, social class, and gender identity might be cause to have protections against crimes directed at people for what they are. Genocide and genocide-like crimes are the definitive hate crimes, and the path to those crimes begins with smaller-scale hate crimes.

Hate crimes statutes are ordinarily leveled at crimes less egregious than murder.  I can see how "Class of '20" or "Eddie + Susan 4ever" as graffiti are much less troublesome than a swastika or Nazi slogans daubed on 'Temple Beth Shalom'. "Off a Pig Today" on a cop's property? Interesting comparison. 

Isn't the theory behind hate crimes legislation the idea that someone is terrorizing all members of a group through their actions?  In that case I don't see why we wouldn't have those protections for prostitutes.

We would be better off to legalize and regulate prostitution. Prostitutes are usually victims. It would be better if they could turn to the cops for protection than to pimps for survival.   
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« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2017, 02:55:16 AM »

I had no idea cops are race/religion/sexual orientation/ideology
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« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2017, 03:04:41 AM »

Funny how you never have any White people showing up to interject by declaring "all lives matter" when "blue lives matter" laws are being discussed.

     Blue Lives Matter is effectively a troll comment. I would reply with All Lives Matter if I thought the "underlying principle" really merited any kind of a serious reply at all. As it is, poking holes in the logic of this law is easy enough already.
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