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seb_pard
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« on: March 25, 2017, 08:10:16 PM »


Don't waste the energy on your typing fingers.

I tried to make this argument last time when the coup attempt was happening and was laughed out of the room.

your argument is valid -  since some time has passed since the failed coup i agree now. it's just that a slow-mo coup IS happening in turkey, day after day and the failed coup was just a good excuse to accelerate the speed and unveil their intentions. seems like a choice between a fast and a slow death.


To be frank, I'm not really sure what is to be done (if anything at all). It's obviously a complicated situation and I doubt there is a "solution" that won't result in some form of human suffering.

It's just that it pains me to see such quick acceptance for a coup with so many examples of those things making everything worse. And yes, both Alex and myself come from a country where the pre-coup government was a sponsor of state terrorism and the situation on the ground (the economy, the quasi civil war) was comparable, probably even worse than that of Turkey now, where people and politicians alike were clamoring for a coup and when it happened it turned out to be worse (almost even got us into a war with Chile).

Well, we tend to be more cautious I guess.
Yes, the banalization of a coup here is really hard to see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNfcjkL37zE

This is video of Patricio Aylwin (first chilean president after Pinochet and one of the leaders of the opposition against his dictatorship) supporting the coup against Allende. He was quite sure that the army would give him the power right away after the coup (as most of christian democrats). He was very wrong.

A military junta is a pandora's box.
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