My "Corruption"

[Terry the Fat Shark]

Actually that pm was asking for your personal endorsement, you are the one who turned it into a UA thing

[Terry the Fat Shark]

I intend to say this:

Diptheriadan and dfw engaged in conversation about the UA. They admitted as much. Dfw IRC-PMed me, asking many questions which made me suspicious. I threw him off the scent and diptheriadan motioned for the dissolution within a minute or two. I ask that anyone contacted privately about the UA or dissolution thereof prior to or during the vote step forwards. Honesty is the best policy. Perhaps there was no wrongdoing. Please reveal everything said.

He asked me if the UA Convention was still open, I said it was, that was the extent

But yeah let's go that interesting conversation you and I had. Where you claimed (supposedly trolling but that is actually how you run your party lol) that your "Party" is not acutally a party and that you hate parties and don't think UA should be a party. Well you're getting your wish Kingpoleon, it's not a party anymore

[Terry the Fat Shark]

For example:
01:26:55: <Kingpoleon> Good
01:27:03: <Kingpoleon> We are not a party.
01:27:18: <Kingpoleon> The party system is problematic.
01:27:29: <Kingpoleon> You want to know what we are?
01:27:53: <Kingpoleon> We are a group which is not all the same. We are a group which is embracing its differences.

[Terry the Fat Shark]

For example:
01:26:55: <Kingpoleon> Good
01:27:03: <Kingpoleon> We are not a party.
01:27:18: <Kingpoleon> The party system is problematic.
01:27:29: <Kingpoleon> You want to know what we are?
01:27:53: <Kingpoleon> We are a group which is not all the same. We are a group which is embracing its differences.

I don't have the log copied. I do happen to know that you repeatedly asked me questions, which me suspicious. I have stated as much above.

Please release this conversation between you and diptheriadan, then.

it happened here so nah that's against TOS, as for the logs, you don't log you don't win, I learned that the hard way back in October.

[Terry the Fat Shark]

Kingpoleon, if I wanted to kill off your party i could've done it a long time ago, most have been dissatisfied with your leadership, your party is done, you killed it, enough.

[Terry the Fat Shark]

Can somebody explain to me what exactly is going here (in 100 words or less) and why it's a scandal? I've skimmed a good bit and actually heard whispers about something to do with this weeks ago, but I'm still failing to understand why we're dissolving parties and leaking logs over this. Love a good scandal, though!

Kingpoleon tried to trade SoS for President to me and NeverAgain (as in UA endorsement) and he tried to blackmail Blair after I gave my side of the story with SG back in October thinking Blair wanted to cover it up. I apparently destroyed the United Alternative too.

[Terry the Fat Shark]

Can somebody explain to me what exactly is going here (in 100 words or less) and why it's a scandal? I've skimmed a good bit and actually heard whispers about something to do with this weeks ago, but I'm still failing to understand why we're dissolving parties and leaking logs over this. Love a good scandal, though!

Kingpoleon tried to trade SoS for President to me and NeverAgain (as in UA endorsement) and he tried to blackmail Blair after I gave my side of the story with SG back in October thinking Blair wanted to cover it up. I apparently destroyed the United Alternative too.

Hmm, that just sounds like political negotiating to me - though why anybody would want to try to throw their weight around and risk getting "outed" for positions most players don't pay attention to is beyond me. The blackmailing is Deeply Disturbing, though!

I never blackmailed anybody. I did pretend to do so to test Blair's integrity. He, too, did not reject me outright. I never accused dfw of destroying UA. I simply mentioned what I was told.

As for this matter, being allowed to release IRC logs which are done via PM and privately but not being allowed to release PMs on here is a double standard. Either delete the IRC logs from here and issue an apology for revealing private conversation(whether truthful or not), or release your entire unedited PM conversation with Diptheriadan.

It's not a double standard it's literally against the terms of service of Atlas forum to release ATLAS pm's, it's not against them to release IRC logs tho, catch 22 'poleon

[Terry the Fat Shark]

Can somebody explain to me what exactly is going here (in 100 words or less) and why it's a scandal? I've skimmed a good bit and actually heard whispers about something to do with this weeks ago, but I'm still failing to understand why we're dissolving parties and leaking logs over this. Love a good scandal, though!

Kingpoleon tried to trade SoS for President to me and NeverAgain (as in UA endorsement) and he tried to blackmail Blair after I gave my side of the story with SG back in October thinking Blair wanted to cover it up. I apparently destroyed the United Alternative too.

Hmm, that just sounds like political negotiating to me - though why anybody would want to try to throw their weight around and risk getting "outed" for positions most players don't pay attention to is beyond me. The blackmailing is Deeply Disturbing, though!

I never blackmailed anybody. I did pretend to do so to test Blair's integrity. He, too, did not reject me outright. I never accused dfw of destroying UA. I simply mentioned what I was told.

As for this matter, being allowed to release IRC logs which are done via PM and privately but not being allowed to release PMs on here is a double standard. Either delete the IRC logs from here and issue an apology for revealing private conversation(whether truthful or not), or release your entire unedited PM conversation with Diptheriadan.

It's not a double standard it's literally against the terms of service of Atlas forum to release ATLAS pm's, it's not against them to release IRC logs tho, catch 22 'poleon

So we can release what the PMs say, just not the actual PM quoted?

Please refer me to the terms of service - I thought it was just standard, rather than "against the terms of service". You are probably right, I just wish to verify it.

I asked a mod to post it for you

[Terry the Fat Shark]

Can somebody explain to me what exactly is going here (in 100 words or less) and why it's a scandal? I've skimmed a good bit and actually heard whispers about something to do with this weeks ago, but I'm still failing to understand why we're dissolving parties and leaking logs over this. Love a good scandal, though!

Kingpoleon tried to trade SoS for President to me and NeverAgain (as in UA endorsement) and he tried to blackmail Blair after I gave my side of the story with SG back in October thinking Blair wanted to cover it up. I apparently destroyed the United Alternative too.

Hmm, that just sounds like political negotiating to me - though why anybody would want to try to throw their weight around and risk getting "outed" for positions most players don't pay attention to is beyond me. The blackmailing is Deeply Disturbing, though!

I never blackmailed anybody. I did pretend to do so to test Blair's integrity. He, too, did not reject me outright. I never accused dfw of destroying UA. I simply mentioned what I was told.

As for this matter, being allowed to release IRC logs which are done via PM and privately but not being allowed to release PMs on here is a double standard. Either delete the IRC logs from here and issue an apology for revealing private conversation(whether truthful or not), or release your entire unedited PM conversation with Diptheriadan.

It's not a double standard it's literally against the terms of service of Atlas forum to release ATLAS pm's, it's not against them to release IRC logs tho, catch 22 'poleon

As you reminded me not too long ago in a now-deleted post from the original deleted thread, you don't get Death Points for releasing PMs anymore - anybody who has any should feel free to fire away! The PMs will remain visible until/unless some whiner reports them and a mod gets around to deleting them. I had actually forgotten about that change in policy until you reminded me.

We need more context here.

lol Adam, you don't get "death points" but you still get moderated and get banned for doing it more than a couple of times I'm sure, how stupid do you think I am??

[Terry the Fat Shark]

Can somebody explain to me what exactly is going here (in 100 words or less) and why it's a scandal? I've skimmed a good bit and actually heard whispers about something to do with this weeks ago, but I'm still failing to understand why we're dissolving parties and leaking logs over this. Love a good scandal, though!

Kingpoleon tried to trade SoS for President to me and NeverAgain (as in UA endorsement) and he tried to blackmail Blair after I gave my side of the story with SG back in October thinking Blair wanted to cover it up. I apparently destroyed the United Alternative too.

Hmm, that just sounds like political negotiating to me - though why anybody would want to try to throw their weight around and risk getting "outed" for positions most players don't pay attention to is beyond me. The blackmailing is Deeply Disturbing, though!

I never blackmailed anybody. I did pretend to do so to test Blair's integrity. He, too, did not reject me outright. I never accused dfw of destroying UA. I simply mentioned what I was told.

As for this matter, being allowed to release IRC logs which are done via PM and privately but not being allowed to release PMs on here is a double standard. Either delete the IRC logs from here and issue an apology for revealing private conversation(whether truthful or not), or release your entire unedited PM conversation with Diptheriadan.

It's not a double standard it's literally against the terms of service of Atlas forum to release ATLAS pm's, it's not against them to release IRC logs tho, catch 22 'poleon

As you reminded me not too long ago in a now-deleted post from the original deleted thread, you don't get Death Points for releasing PMs anymore - anybody who has any should feel free to fire away! The PMs will remain visible until/unless some whiner reports them and a mod gets around to deleting them. I had actually forgotten about that change in policy until you reminded me.

We need more context here.

lol Adam, you don't get "death points" but you still get moderated and get banned for doing it more than a couple of times I'm sure, how stupid do you think I am??

LOL, I posted PMs on Atlasia at least 5 times over the past few years when there were death points and I'm still here.

Very Corrupt Adam Sad!ly wants me to be banned because he can't handle how good my Presidency is going, will fake news cover?

[Terry the Fat Shark]

I did pretend to do so to test Blair's integrity. He, too, did not reject me outright.

When a crazy person sits next to you on the bus, and starts asking you questions you dont stand up and scream. Your 'attempt' at blackmail was so inept that me, and several others spend a good 2-3 hours trying to work out what you were actually saying.

If you continue to sling these allegations that I somehow 'did not reject me outright', and that I was somehow going to go along with being blackmailed (which is complete bollocks) then I will release the PM's you send me, and the one I sent that quite firmly told you to cut this type of stupid behavior out.

So... can we release PMs or can't we?

go ahead but be aware that doing it a certain amount of times can be a risk and you can get modded for it