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« Reply #75 on: June 05, 2017, 02:23:36 AM »

President Clinton signs Education Reform of 2001 Act into law:


Clinton : Today thanks to Democrats and Republicans we have finally reformed our failing education system. Today we will end the era of unaccountably in our schools , end the era of under funding schools in poor districts, bring the World wide web into more of our classrooms and usher in a new era for our education system.

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« Reply #76 on: June 05, 2017, 02:36:15 AM »
« Edited: June 05, 2017, 03:38:45 PM by Old School Republican »

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich angered by this Bill holds and speaks at tea party protests in Washington to protest expansion of government by both parties.



Former Speaker Gingrich: The Bill that passed last week was a farce, and a disgrace not designed to help improve our education system but to make America more socialist. Today we stand here opposed to that and I will announce that we will be forming a PAC called the 21st Century Tea Party to stop big government from growing even bigger from now on, and thanks to all of you we will win. The road begins with us showing Washington how angry and disgusted we are , and if they dont respond to that we respond by sending them home whether they are a Democrat or a Republican. If that doesnt work we will have someone who is part of this movement run for President in 2004 and I can guarantee you we will win then.
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« Reply #77 on: June 06, 2017, 08:12:50 PM »

Newt Gingirch leads comfortably in early 2004 Republican primary poll:

If W Bush runs:

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich 43%
Texas Governor George W Bush 28%
Arizona Senator John McCain 25%
Others 4%


If Jeb Runs:

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich 45%
Arizona Senator John McCain 26%
Florida Governor Jeb Bush 26%
Others 3%


If Neither Bush runs:

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich 59%
Arizona Senator John McCain 30%
New York Governor George Pataki 7%
Others 4%


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« Reply #78 on: June 07, 2017, 12:12:52 AM »

Bill Clinton schedule for a 5 day trip to India:


Jun 11th-Jun 12th : In New Dehli to discuss a trade agreement with the Indian PM and a possible military alliance

Jun 13th: Will  speak to Indian business leaders in Mumbai

Jun 14th: If a trade deal has been agreed to , President Clinton will speak at universities and towns to promote the deal . If a trade deal hasnt been agreed to President Clinton will speak about other issues.

Jun 15th: Will visit Taj Mahal , and then fly back to DC.

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« Reply #79 on: June 08, 2017, 11:28:59 AM »

The House was increased to 518 members? Cool.
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« Reply #80 on: June 09, 2017, 02:57:00 PM »

Photo's of President Clinton's Trip To India








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« Reply #81 on: June 09, 2017, 03:21:52 PM »

Details on Trade Agreement Between America and India:


1. H1B will be increased from 200k to 300k, and it will be easier for them to become permanent residents in the United States
2. End most of the current trade barriers between America and India
3. India will raise their minimum wage by 10%,
4. America will invest 50 billion dollars to build Indian infrastructure
5. India will agree to control emissions of greenhouse gases , and  pass laws to make their drinking water more clean and accessible


Details on the proposed Military Alliance between America and India:


1. Allowing India for access using nuclear energy and will get US cooperation on civilian nuclear technology

2. All Sanctions imposed on India in 1998 will be dropped

3. India must follow the standards of the International Atomic Energy Agency

4. If either the US or India is attacked by a foreign country or terrorist group , both the US and India will be at war with that country or terrorist group.

5. India must spend at least 2% of it's GDP on defense spending



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« Reply #82 on: June 09, 2017, 03:26:02 PM »
« Edited: June 09, 2017, 09:39:38 PM by Old School Republican »

Senator Bernie Sanders says he will filibuster Trade Agreement:



Sanders: The idea that in a time when more and more of our manufacturing jobs are being shipped overseas, that instead of making that practice more stricter , we make it easier while at the same time increasing the H1B visa which corporations use to lower wage standards in the US is wrong . Due to that reason I will filibuster it , and I hope progressives in the senate  and conservatives who claim to care about sovereignty join us in stopping this bill as only together can we stop this disastrous trade agreement from becoming law.
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« Reply #83 on: June 10, 2017, 12:07:09 AM »

NBC News Special Report:Senate Ratifies Military Alliance between The United States of America and India:



Brokaw: We are coming to you to with breaking news, the Senate has ratified the proposed military alliance and nuclear treaty with India . It has been approved overwhelmingly with a margin of 97-2. This means that all sanctions on India will be dropped and they will be given access of using nuclear energy as long as they meet the standards of the International Atomic Energy Agency. Also now if a country or terrorist group attacks either country both countries will be at war with that country or terrorist group. The only requirement for either country coming to the defense of each other is if they meet the requirement of spending 2% of their GDP on defense. So while the military treaty has been ratified the trade agreement has not if any of you are wondering. Ok now we will head back to the regularly scheduled programming. 
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« Reply #84 on: June 13, 2017, 02:20:47 PM »

This will be back on Friday
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« Reply #85 on: June 14, 2017, 09:41:44 PM »

Cool timeline. Not finished reading it yet but I like it so far Smiley
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« Reply #86 on: June 14, 2017, 09:54:53 PM »

Cool timeline. Not finished reading it yet but I like it so far Smiley


On Friday , I will try to add many updates as I can.
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« Reply #87 on: June 15, 2017, 03:16:07 AM »

Cool timeline. Not finished reading it yet but I like it so far Smiley


On Friday , I will try to add many updates as I can.
Wonderful news!
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« Reply #88 on: June 16, 2017, 02:43:51 AM »

NBC Nightly News(7/2/01): Massive Anti Globalization Protests all over the Country



Tom: Today all over the country there were major protests against not only President Clinton's proposed trade deal but against globalization it self.



Commentator: In Seattle, just like in the famous 1999 " Battle in Seattle", a large amount of people turned out to protest against the WTO, and Clinton proposed trade deal.



Unions marched on DC , protesting against this trade agreement and calling it NAFTA 2.0

And In New York we had a surprise guest speak to a crowd about why he opposes this trade deal. Here is Donald Trump a Billionaire himself speaking out against trade deals.




Trump: Today , Im am here to speak out against this terrible trade deal . In the 1970s and 1980s our politicians said our trade deals with Japan and Kuwait will help our economy grow like we never have before and guess what all they did was created huge trade deficits and outsource our jobs to those countries. In the 1990s they told us nafta and opening up trade with China will make our economy great again, and guess what it had the same results as the trade deals before did. Now they are claiming the same thing about this trade deal with India, but this time we the people have found out that they have lied to us and we shall not allow this farce to continue. We know that these liar , or losers dont care about the people , so this time we will send a message to them that we know your are a terrible loser as well.










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« Reply #89 on: June 16, 2017, 02:48:17 AM »
« Edited: June 16, 2017, 02:52:23 AM by Old School Republican »

Bill Clinton's approval dips as protests continue and economy begins to stagnate:


 7/18/01

Approve : 57%
Disapprove: 40%

With less then 2 weeks till congress goes on recess , and the protests are starting to slow things down in congress.
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« Reply #90 on: June 16, 2017, 11:36:40 AM »

Sticked featured TL.
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« Reply #91 on: June 17, 2017, 12:11:37 AM »

Congress goes on recess without being able to get the votes needed to break possible Sanders filibuster on trade deal. Bill Clinton meets with former president Bush to discuss strategy on how to make sure deal passes once congress gets back in session




Their conversation(not seen by public) :

Clinton: My team, and the senate majority an minority whips have identified that currently we have 52 Senators who will support this trade deal if it comes up for a vote and 33 Senators will not only vote no on this bill but will filibuster this bill. This means we currently have 15 Senators who are in the undecided camp(10 Democrats and 5 Republicans), and we will need 8 of them to vote to stop a filibuster, so this trade deal can pass. This is critical as if the other side bats over 500 and gets them to filibuster this deal , we wont be able to bring this up until the next congress.

So President Bush what I hope you can do , is to help me by using your resources to go to the states of those 5 Republican senators and make sure the supporters of at least 4/5 Republicans pressure them to stop a filibuster as if we cant get 4 Republicans, this  wont pass.


Bush: Of Course Mr. President, I will be honored to do so , and I will gather up some of my old staff from my administration and President's Reagan's to not only get the Republicans on your side but get many democrats in swing states to also vote for this trade deal. I will have the staff assembled by the end of August so we are ready to win this battle as soon as congress gets back in session.


Clinton: Thank You President Bush, and I hope to meet you back here on August 31st , and hopefully at the signing ceremony when this trade agreement becomes law.
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« Reply #92 on: June 19, 2017, 01:41:29 AM »
« Edited: March 20, 2018, 05:17:50 PM by Old School Republican »

President Clinton schedule for trip to promote trade agreement Sad

September 3rd: Washington DC
September 4th: Providence, Rhode Island and Warwick, Rhode Island
September 5th: Weymouth, Massachusetts and Boston, Massachusetts
September 6th:  Newwark , New Jersey and Paterson , New Jersey
September 7th: Detroit, Michigan and Grand Rapids, Michigan
September 8th: Milwaukee,Wisconsin, and Madison,Wisconsin
September 9th: Columbia , South Carolina and Charleston, South Carolina
September 10th: Charlotte , North Carolina, and Greensboro , North Carolina
September 11th: Fargo, North Dakota  and Bismark , North Dakota
September 12th: Sioux Falls, South Dakota and Rapid City, South Dakota
September 13th: San Francisco, California and Fresno , California
September 14th: San Diego , California and Los Angeles , California
September 15th: Joint Statement with former President Bush on Trade Agreement (Face to Face meeting moved till then though both presidents talked on phone today)
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« Reply #93 on: June 19, 2017, 02:07:59 AM »

President Clinton Approval and Polls on proposed trade agreement:

Clinton Approval Sad

Approve : 54%
Disapprove:44%
Undecided : 2%

Polls on proposed trade agreement between America and India:

Approve : 37%
Disapprove: 34%
Undecided : 29%
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« Reply #94 on: June 21, 2017, 01:54:15 AM »

Trump thinking about entering the 2004 Democratic primary race



Larry King: President Clinton tomorrow will kick off a two week tour across the country by selling his trade deal directly to the people, so he can convince undecided democratic senators to vote for this bill and help it pass. Do you think it will work . and what are your thoughts on it.

Trump: Im not sure it will work, but if it does it will be disastrous for our country .

King: Why NAFTA hasnt seemed to hurt the economy over the past 8 years

Trump: Thats because of the tech boom is making the bad affects of this enormous trade deficit we have . Once this boom comes to an end , our economy will tank as we wont have all the manufacturing jobs we once have to bail us out of a recession. What President Clinton should do is renegotiate  are existing trade deals not expand them. If he fails to do so I will heavily consider running for President in 2004.


King: With what party

Trump: As a democrat of course , the reform party has fallen apart and the republicans are even more of making these horrendous deals then the democrats. In fact this bill will pass because of the Republicans not the Democrats, as even if all the undecided dem senators vote yes and republicans no the treaty will pass with vote of 35 republicans and 27 democrats. In fact this bill can pass with 40 Republicans and 20 democrats which means the president instead of fighting the other party is siding with them. Its just sad I mean after 12 years of ballooning republican trade deficits, President Clinton decides not to reverse that trend but accelerate them. 

King: What else makes you mad

Trump: The fact is both parties have sold out to multinational corporations that they have to abide by less regulations then I do in real estate. its just that horrible.


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« Reply #95 on: June 21, 2017, 02:15:23 AM »
« Edited: June 21, 2017, 02:20:23 AM by Old School Republican »

Trump leads a Clinton-less Democratic field in early polls:

2004 Democratic primary poll:

Businessman Donald Trump 40%
Former Vice President Al Gore 30%
Vice President Bob Kerrey  28%
Others 2%

2004 Democratic primary field if Clinton runs for 4th term:

President Clinton 53%
Businessman Donald Trump 43%
Others 4%



Trump vs GOP candidates(no third parties included):


Businessman Donald Trump 55%
Former Speaker Newt Gingrich 45%


Governor George W Bush   51%
Businessman Donald Trump 49%


Senator John McCain  54%
Businessman Donald Trump 46%

Businessman Donald Trump 51%
Governor Jeb Bush   49%



Analyst gives his interpretation of  the polls: While none of these polls matter for 2004, it does show that the Liberal rage at this trade deal, and that Clinton better do a good job at changing public opinion as if these numbers hold , I dont think the undecided democratic senators will vote in favor of this deal and thus this trade deal will fail.

President Clinton cant take that result either, as a failure to pass this trade deal can derail the rest of his agenda and cause this failed trade deal to be the Hillarycare of 2002 and sink the Democrats. On the other hand if the trade deal passes with numbers like this we could maybe see a President Trump i 4 years thus causing his influence on the democratic party to be repudiated . So Clinton better succeed  over the next two weeks , or his legacy will be tarnished.
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« Reply #96 on: June 21, 2017, 02:53:55 AM »

President Clinton Reacts to Polls(Private):




President Clinton(Raging): Bernie Sanders caused this, he had to filibuster this trade deal meaning we need 60 votes to pass then 50. If these poll numbers stay put this bill will fail meaning that I will have failed. That also means 2002 is going to be another 1994 and there is no way in hell that should happen as in 1994 when we lost all those seats , we still had enough seats to give Newt Gingrich and co trouble, while this tine if we lose 50+ seats in the house and 8+ seats in senate gop Will have 267+ house seats and 58+ senate seats meaning they will be able to derail my entire agenda and then win even bigger in 2004.


His advisors : That sounds terrible, what are we going to do

President Clinton(Calmer):  We are not going to allow these polls to remain in tact and allow 2002 to another 1994 and 2004 to be another 1980, we are going to pass this trade deal. For more then two months the opposition has been in full attack mode and we have been in defense mode. Tomorrow we will begin our counter attack, and by the time the other side has known we have hit them, we will already have destroyed their fort and passed this bill with popular support.
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« Reply #97 on: June 21, 2017, 06:36:57 AM »

Loving it!
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« Reply #98 on: June 21, 2017, 07:13:47 AM »

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« Reply #99 on: June 22, 2017, 09:03:02 AM »

Great TL, just one nitpick- Trump seems way too knowledgeable and articulate here.
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