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« on: March 26, 2017, 10:02:28 AM »





https://twitter.com/JustSchmeltzer/status/845970445363023874

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/germany-dismisses-white-houses-intimidating-300bn-bill-for-defence-dl7dk629k



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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2017, 12:22:17 PM »

What a douche
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2017, 12:24:05 PM »

This is going to need more verification.  It's so ridiculous sounding, and it is hard to believe that no one would have leaked it at the time considering all the leaks surrounding Trump every time he does anything.
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2017, 12:36:53 PM »

Hope she threw it in the trash.
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2017, 12:38:11 PM »

I hate that Madam Austerity is now the progressive hero of Western civilization.
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2017, 12:40:26 PM »

I hate that Madam Austerity is now the progressive hero of Western civilization.

mister trump thinks so anyway and in his world, you are what you wish to be.
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2017, 12:53:34 PM »


It's part of history now, so, for better or worse, it belongs in a museum.
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2017, 12:53:36 PM »

I wonder what happened the last time countries unjustly demanded insane amounts of money from Germany?
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2017, 03:59:53 PM »

I hate that Madam Austerity is now the progressive hero of Western civilization.

What does it say about Western civilization when its most reputable leader is Madam Austerity?

As for the bill, Trump obviously doesn't understand that no country "owes" the United States anything for belonging to NATO; it's an international treaty group that have committed to mutual defense. It's not a protectorate of the United States military, regardless of how much some Americans may want to view it that way. And no country is even obligated to spend 2% of their GDP on their military at this point; that doesn't apply until some point in the early 2020s. So Trump is pulling this all out of his ass for the purpose of upsetting the balance and stability within NATO. Whether it's just to look tough or aid Russia, I'm not sure.
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2017, 04:10:25 PM »

As for the bill, Trump obviously doesn't understand that no country "owes" the United States anything for belonging to NATO.

He does, but, as you said, he want
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2017, 04:19:31 PM »

Why is he billing her in pounds? It'll be worth half as much by this time next week.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2017, 04:38:07 PM »

This is going to need more verification.  It's so ridiculous sounding, and it is hard to believe that no one would have leaked it at the time considering all the leaks surrounding Trump every time he does anything.

Trump's Razor: the stupidest possible scenario that can be reconciled with the available facts is likely correct

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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2017, 05:37:20 PM »

Why is he billing her in pounds? It'll be worth half as much by this time next week.
The report is in the Times, so they likely valued the amount in pounds for the convenience of their readers. In any case, since Trump has been accusing them of playing games with their currency, he certainly wasn't going to submit the bill in Deutscheuros.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2017, 06:24:47 PM »

hahahaha what
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2017, 06:49:46 PM »

Christ, what an embarrassment.

The United States will be apologizing for Donald Trump for decades to come.  Hopefully the next POTUS embarks on an official Apology Tour!
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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2017, 08:54:43 PM »

How much is that in Deutsche Marks?
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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2017, 10:28:42 PM »

While Trump obviously has no clue how NATO is paid for, I'm extremely skeptical of this story
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2017, 05:34:04 AM »

I bet Schauble saw this and cursed himself for not doing the same thing with Greece.
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2017, 06:28:54 AM »

How much is that in Deutsche Marks?

Infinity in something that is not legal tender.
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2017, 09:19:47 AM »

Sounds like a pretty heavy bill.
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2017, 09:38:48 AM »

How much is that in Deutsche Marks?

Depends upon which marks they're using.  If they're using Weimar marks it'd be quite a bit.  In November 1923, one US dollar was worth about 4.2x1012 marks.
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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2017, 09:43:33 AM »

According to Merkel's spox this story is wrong but i wouldn't be surprised if it has happened anyway.
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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2017, 11:13:11 AM »

I bet Schauble saw this and cursed himself for not doing the same thing with Greece.

Well, Tsipiras did try the opposite
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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2017, 04:58:32 PM »

I doubt even the Trump admin would be that stupid. Perhaps the amount was mentioned during the talks and the message got garbled in translation to a literal  printed invoice
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« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2017, 05:14:39 PM »

I doubt even the Trump admin would be that stupid.

You should re-evaluate how much faith you have in the Trump administration...
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