Sanders introduces single payer health care bill:Will any other 2020ers back it?

[Mr. Morden]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/sanders-to-introduce-single-payer-health-care-plan-236516

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This is obviously not going to pass any time soon (if ever).  But will any of the other prospective 2020 candidates support it?  Will any of them in the Senate co-sponsor it?

[Incipimus iterum]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/sanders-to-introduce-single-payer-health-care-plan-236516

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This is obviously not going to pass any time soon (if ever).  But will any of the other prospective 2020 candidates support it?  Will any of them in the Senate co-sponsor it?

Some might do this to appeal to the Bernie wing of the party. Franken, Warren, Brown will be behind this for sure.

[henster]

I think a public option is a lot more realistic and easier to sell than single payer.

[Blue3]

I think a public option is a lot more realistic and easier to sell than single payer.

I know the Bernie-fan response to this: it's about negotiating from a position of strength, so a public option could be seen as a moderate acceptable compromise. And about fighting for what you really want in the end.

[Baki]

Sanders himself said in an interview recently that a single payer system is not going to pass any time soon, so that they should go for a public option solution.

[publicunofficial]

Sanders himself said in an interview recently that a single payer system is not going to pass any time soon, so that they should go for a public option solution.

A public option won't pass anytime soon either. Start with what you really want, end with what you're willing to settle for.

[Mr. Morden]

Sanders himself said in an interview recently that a single payer system is not going to pass any time soon, so that they should go for a public option solution.

A public option won't pass anytime soon either. Start with what you really want, end with what you're willing to settle for.

But it's not clear to me that all of the other 2020 Dem. candidates do want single payer.  Will be interesting to see what divisions emerge among them on the health care issue.  If you're just one of 100 Senators, then it's easy enough to take a pragmatic line, and just advocate for what you think could realistically pass.  And even during a period of time when your party controls both the executive and legislative branches, like 2009-2010, you could pass the buck on those decisions to the party leadership.

But if you're running for president yourself, then you have to put forward your own vision for what you would like to pass, should you be in a position to be president yourself with (hopefully) your own party controlling Congress.  You can't just pass the buck to the rest of the party on such issues during a presidential campaign.  So in the '20 campaign, we'll get to see how these folks position themselves in this situation where they're finally forced to make such decisions on their own, and not defer to Obama or Reid or Schumer.

Now, whether any of these folks takes the opportunity *now*, two full years before they declare for president, to lay down a marker on this issue by, for example, signing on to Sanders's bill....I don't know.  I guess we'll find out.

[henster]

A public option would be self sustaining because of premiums and there would be immediate deficit reductions and no big tax hike on the middle class. If done right all there need to be is startup funds for it. The math is still fuzzy on single payer right now and how big the tax hike would really be. 

[Rjjr77]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/sanders-to-introduce-single-payer-health-care-plan-236516

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This is obviously not going to pass any time soon (if ever).  But will any of the other prospective 2020 candidates support it?  Will any of them in the Senate co-sponsor it?

Some might do this to appeal to the Bernie wing of the party. Franken, Warren, Brown will be behind this for sure.

Brown as in Sherrod Brown? You might as well just start calling Josh Mandel senator right now if brown gets involved in single payer mess

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/sanders-to-introduce-single-payer-health-care-plan-236516

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This is obviously not going to pass any time soon (if ever).  But will any of the other prospective 2020 candidates support it?  Will any of them in the Senate co-sponsor it?

Some might do this to appeal to the Bernie wing of the party. Franken, Warren, Brown will be behind this for sure.

Brown as in Sherrod Brown? You might as well just start calling Josh Mandel senator right now if brown gets involved in single payer mess

58% of Americans support single payer.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx

[Rjjr77]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/sanders-to-introduce-single-payer-health-care-plan-236516

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This is obviously not going to pass any time soon (if ever).  But will any of the other prospective 2020 candidates support it?  Will any of them in the Senate co-sponsor it?

Some might do this to appeal to the Bernie wing of the party. Franken, Warren, Brown will be behind this for sure.

Brown as in Sherrod Brown? You might as well just start calling Josh Mandel senator right now if brown gets involved in single payer mess

58% of Americans support single payer.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx

You can literally describe something in glowing terms and 58% of people will support anything they don't understand. The majority of Americans don't know what single payer means.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/02/people-have-no-idea-what-single-payer-means/471045/

[Shadows]

John Conyers(Michigan) has again introduced HR676 in the House & has been doing for years, atleast a decade. The battle here is not to pass it but to move the Dem party leftwards & to ensure there is Dem support for it in 2020. A fitting tribute to Paul Wellstone's S-491 in 1991 by Sanders IMO & Schatz, Stabenow & a few others have openly supported the Single Payer. I think Bernie will wait for 5-6 months & see if anything is being done to fix the ACA (& everyone knows a Public option will not be accepted).

Anyways Jeff Merkley introduced the Public option last year & in total had 33 votes.

List of Co-sponsors -

Sen. Schumer, Charles E. [D-NY]
Sen. Murray, Patty [D-WA]
Sen. Durbin, Richard J. [D-IL]
Sen. Sanders, Bernard [I-VT]
Sen. Stabenow, Debbie [D-MI]
Sen. Boxer, Barbara [D-CA]
Sen. Feinstein, Dianne [D-CA]
Sen. Franken, Al [D-MN]
Sen. Whitehouse, Sheldon [D-RI]
Sen. Udall, Tom [D-NM]
Sen. Wyden, Ron [D-OR]
Sen. Brown, Sherrod [D-OH]
Sen. Gillibrand, Kirsten E. [D-NY]
Sen. Murphy, Christopher [D-CT]
Sen. Menendez, Robert [D-NJ]
Sen. Reed, Jack [D-RI]
Sen. Cardin, Benjamin L. [D-MD]
Sen. Blumenthal, Richard [D-CT]
Sen. Casey, Robert P., Jr. [D-PA]
Sen. Markey, Edward J. [D-MA]
Sen. Shaheen, Jeanne [D-NH]
Sen. Bennet, Michael F. [D-CO]
Sen. Baldwin, Tammy [D-WI]
Sen. Warren, Elizabeth [D-MA]
Sen. Peters, Gary C. [D-MI]
Sen. Schatz, Brian [D-HI]
Sen. Heinrich, Martin [D-NM]
Sen. Leahy, Patrick J. [D-VT]
Sen. Hirono, Mazie K. [D-HI]
Sen. Mikulski, Barbara A. [D-MD]
Sen. Reid, Harry [D-NV]
Sen. Klobuchar, Amy [D-MN]

Prominent People who didn't support -

Cory Booker (New Jersey) - Are you kidding me?? From a safe blue seat in NJ when even Menendez is supporting it! - Even Hillary & Obama were supporting it !
Maria Cantwell (Washington) - Really
Nelson (Florida) - Moderate in a swing state so atleast you can get the logic !

Even Moderates like Casey, Bennet are supporting it, but not Booker.

You have Massan & Duckworth & you have close to 35 people who atleast could support a Public Option & should be 1st targeted !

[NOVA Green]

Was going to say Jeff Merkley (D-OR) would definitely be behind a single payer health care bill, but Shadows pulled up a complete list of Dem Senators backing the bill that Merkley introduced, and in my mind he is definitely a 2020 contender, despite coming out of a relatively small state without much in the way of major big donors backing him.

[Famous Mortimer]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/sanders-to-introduce-single-payer-health-care-plan-236516

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This is obviously not going to pass any time soon (if ever).  But will any of the other prospective 2020 candidates support it?  Will any of them in the Senate co-sponsor it?

Some might do this to appeal to the Bernie wing of the party. Franken, Warren, Brown will be behind this for sure.

Brown as in Sherrod Brown? You might as well just start calling Josh Mandel senator right now if brown gets involved in single payer mess

58% of Americans support single payer.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx

You can literally describe something in glowing terms and 58% of people will support anything they don't understand. The majority of Americans don't know what single payer means.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/02/people-have-no-idea-what-single-payer-means/471045/

Most people don't know what single payer means but supporting single payer will doom Brown electorally. Okay.

[Intell]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/sanders-to-introduce-single-payer-health-care-plan-236516

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This is obviously not going to pass any time soon (if ever).  But will any of the other prospective 2020 candidates support it?  Will any of them in the Senate co-sponsor it?

Some might do this to appeal to the Bernie wing of the party. Franken, Warren, Brown will be behind this for sure.

Brown as in Sherrod Brown? You might as well just start calling Josh Mandel senator right now if brown gets involved in single payer mess

58% of Americans support single payer.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx

You can literally describe something in glowing terms and 58% of people will support anything they don't understand. The majority of Americans don't know what single payer means.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/02/people-have-no-idea-what-single-payer-means/471045/

So most/plurality of people support it when socialised medicine is not used.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/sanders-to-introduce-single-payer-health-care-plan-236516

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This is obviously not going to pass any time soon (if ever).  But will any of the other prospective 2020 candidates support it?  Will any of them in the Senate co-sponsor it?

Some might do this to appeal to the Bernie wing of the party. Franken, Warren, Brown will be behind this for sure.

Brown as in Sherrod Brown? You might as well just start calling Josh Mandel senator right now if brown gets involved in single payer mess

58% of Americans support single payer.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx

You can literally describe something in glowing terms and 58% of people will support anything they don't understand. The majority of Americans don't know what single payer means.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/02/people-have-no-idea-what-single-payer-means/471045/

So most/plurality of people support it when socialised medicine is not used.

Well, if you're going to poll that, you should also have a poll question: "Do you support socialist sidewalks, socialist roads, and socialist public schools?" Just so we can ignore anyone who got scared off by the word socialist.

[NOVA Green]

John Conyers(Michigan) has again introduced HR676 in the House & has been doing for years, atleast a decade. The battle here is not to pass it but to move the Dem party leftwards & to ensure there is Dem support for it in 2020. A fitting tribute to Paul Wellstone's S-491 in 1991 by Sanders IMO & Schatz, Stabenow & a few others have openly supported the Single Payer. I think Bernie will wait for 5-6 months & see if anything is being done to fix the ACA (& everyone knows a Public option will not be accepted).

Anyways Jeff Merkley introduced the Public option last year & in total had 33 votes.

List of Co-sponsors -

Sen. Schumer, Charles E. [D-NY]
Sen. Murray, Patty [D-WA]
Sen. Durbin, Richard J. [D-IL]
Sen. Sanders, Bernard [I-VT]
Sen. Stabenow, Debbie [D-MI]
Sen. Boxer, Barbara [D-CA]
Sen. Feinstein, Dianne [D-CA]
Sen. Franken, Al [D-MN]
Sen. Whitehouse, Sheldon [D-RI]
Sen. Udall, Tom [D-NM]
Sen. Wyden, Ron [D-OR]
Sen. Brown, Sherrod [D-OH]
Sen. Gillibrand, Kirsten E. [D-NY]
Sen. Murphy, Christopher [D-CT]
Sen. Menendez, Robert [D-NJ]
Sen. Reed, Jack [D-RI]
Sen. Cardin, Benjamin L. [D-MD]
Sen. Blumenthal, Richard [D-CT]
Sen. Casey, Robert P., Jr. [D-PA]
Sen. Markey, Edward J. [D-MA]
Sen. Shaheen, Jeanne [D-NH]
Sen. Bennet, Michael F. [D-CO]
Sen. Baldwin, Tammy [D-WI]
Sen. Warren, Elizabeth [D-MA]
Sen. Peters, Gary C. [D-MI]
Sen. Schatz, Brian [D-HI]
Sen. Heinrich, Martin [D-NM]
Sen. Leahy, Patrick J. [D-VT]
Sen. Hirono, Mazie K. [D-HI]
Sen. Mikulski, Barbara A. [D-MD]
Sen. Reid, Harry [D-NV]
Sen. Klobuchar, Amy [D-MN]

Prominent People who didn't support -

Cory Booker (New Jersey) - Are you kidding me?? From a safe blue seat in NJ when even Menendez is supporting it! - Even Hillary & Obama were supporting it !
Maria Cantwell (Washington) - Really
Nelson (Florida) - Moderate in a swing state so atleast you can get the logic !

Even Moderates like Casey, Bennet are supporting it, but not Booker.

You have Massan & Duckworth & you have close to 35 people who atleast could support a Public Option & should be 1st targeted !

Time to pressure the holdouts and look towards primarying those from safe Democratic states that continue to obstruct substantive forward movement on a fundamental core issue deep in the heart of not only the Democratic Party, but even among a majority of Americans, many of whom don't even identify as Democrats....

Quite frankly, I would be surprised to see Booker get anywhere in 2020 running for the Democratic nomination without supporting this...

Maria Cantwell, if she doesn't jump on the train can be easily replaced without endangering a Democratic Senate seat.

This should be a litmus test for all Democrats running for Senate in 2018, outside of heavily Republican States, and in 2020 as well.

The failure of Trumpcare and Ryancare, regardless of what happens in the next four years regarding gutting access to medical insurance, slashing costs and the like, or finding a way to "strangle the baby in the bathtub" (Grover Norquist style), definitely provides an opening to get something done that we should have in 2010, instead of settling for the Republican version of Health Care Reform circa early/mid 1990s ("Bob Dole") with some tweaks to make it more palatable to the rest of us.

Single payer is the way to go, and sure let's throw it in incrementally as a phased in scene... there is still plenty of money to be made for the private sector providing business services, with a lower risk factor to boot, and overall the overwhelming majority of Americans will benefit.

If anyone thinks that single-payer is somehow "Socialism" then I ask if they think that Social Security is Socialism as well?

[Mr. Morden]

Was there ever actually a vote on Merkley's bill?  It's not as if bills don't get votes from people who aren't co-sponsors.  I wouldn't read not cosponsoring a bill as outright opposition to its passage.

[Shadows]

Was there ever actually a vote on Merkley's bill?  It's not as if bills don't get votes from people who aren't co-sponsors.  I wouldn't read not cosponsoring a bill as outright opposition to its passage.

While that is true, Merkley gave an interview where he said it has the support of 33 people, etc & was an at all time high. So that kind of backs it up. In legislations like this which aren't even voted on most of the time, most people add their name as co-sponsors to tout their progressive credentials.

There was also a letter to Obama to go for a Public Option which had 23 people & didn't have Booker !

[Rjjr77]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/sanders-to-introduce-single-payer-health-care-plan-236516

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This is obviously not going to pass any time soon (if ever).  But will any of the other prospective 2020 candidates support it?  Will any of them in the Senate co-sponsor it?

Some might do this to appeal to the Bernie wing of the party. Franken, Warren, Brown will be behind this for sure.

Brown as in Sherrod Brown? You might as well just start calling Josh Mandel senator right now if brown gets involved in single payer mess

58% of Americans support single payer.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx

You can literally describe something in glowing terms and 58% of people will support anything they don't understand. The majority of Americans don't know what single payer means.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/02/people-have-no-idea-what-single-payer-means/471045/

Most people don't know what single payer means but supporting single payer will doom Brown electorally. Okay.

I don't think you understand how unpopular the words government and healthcare in the same sentence are in Ohio. The voters disliked Obamacare so much they put their opposition to it into the Ohio constitution, if brown is the cheerleader for single payer he'll get crucified here. "Government takeover of all healthcare" will whip Ohio into a firestorm.
Brown should be vulnerable, he's too liberal for Ohio, but he's liked and does great at constituent services. Stepping on this land mine would actually be the ammo so one like Mandel needs.

[politics_king]

They should back single-payer because the compromise would be the public option.

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Tulsi Gabbard signed onto John Conyers' bill.

https://twitter.com/RepJohnConyers/status/847107573065170944

[Mr. Morden]

At the end of this lengthy profile of Gillibrand in NY Mag, she says that she wants to co-sponsor Sanders’s “Medicare for All” bill, and notes that she favored Medicare for all even when she was in the House:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/kirsten-gillibrand-progressive-champion-2020-run.html

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[henster]

Run on building on the ACA w/ a public option + more subsidies for middle class. You have to remember 80-85% of the population gets insurance through their employer and are happy with it.

[Mr. Morden]

*bump*

While reading the latest 538 chat, I saw this link to a Booker comment from March, in which he says that Medicare for all is one of several options that should be considered:

https://twitter.com/JStein_Vox/status/846918701714718721