"Crazy Bernie" to introduce socialized medicine bill

[Santander]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/sanders-to-introduce-single-payer-health-care-plan-236516

[publicunofficial]

"Crazy Bernie" supporting ideas that a huge amount of the Democratic base supports.

[7,052,770]

The devil's in the details. Could be a great bill or a horrible one.

[Xing]

Trigger warning for Wulfric.

[BlueSwan]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/sanders-to-introduce-single-payer-health-care-plan-236516

Great move. I love Bernie when he's not running for president!

[The Other Castro]

Trigger warning for Wulfric.

If a "moderate" Democrat comes out in favor of it, he may spontaneously combust.

[GlobeSoc]

Since the GOP's attempt to repeal and replace Obamacare with their god awful bill failed, I think that the next Demcratic wave won't push for single payer but will instead try to transition the us healthcare system into a multi payer system like Germany or the Netherlands. Now if the GOP healthcare plan had actually passed, then single payer would almost certainly be on the Democratic Party platform going into the 2020's.

I think it will. single-payer is something that I expect Bernie to grandstand and work behind the scenes to force the progressive wing into supporting it. He might make 2020ers sign onto it for his support, for example.

[CapoteMonster]

Reminder that Santander voted for Bernie in the Democratic Primary.

[GlobeSoc]

Reminder that Santander voted for Bernie in the Democratic Primary.

lolwut? Explain!

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Reminder that Santander voted for Bernie in the Democratic Primary.

lolwut? Explain!

Yeah, when Santander was a Democrat way back during the primary, Santander said he couldn't vote for Hillary so he voted for Bernie.

[I Won - Get Over It]

Smart!

Interesting how Trump and 2020 D-candidates will react.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Lol I guess most of America is "Crazy" as well since they support his proposals.

[Green Line]

Americans will continue to reject crazy Bernard and his crackpot ideas.  Go back to Vermont!

[Vosem]

Lol I guess most of America is "Crazy" as well since they support his proposals.

Huh? More Americans support full Obamacare repeal than single-payer.

[Skill and Chance]

Lol I guess most of America is "Crazy" as well since they support his proposals.

Huh? More Americans support full Obamacare repeal than single-payer.

I think this is going to end with something like the German, Swiss or Australian system in 10 years, not single payer and certainly not a federal NHS.

It's going to be politically impossible to replace Obamacare with something that doesn't at least limit individual health expense liability to <$10K/year for all US citizens, probably more like $5K/year when it's said and done.

[Lief 🗽]

Lol I guess most of America is "Crazy" as well since they support his proposals.

Huh? More Americans support full Obamacare repeal than single-payer.

All Americans secretly support socialism, Vosem. It's just that ~neoliberalism~ is preventing them from from actually voting for socialist candidates and policies. Somehow.

[Santander]

It's going to be politically impossible to replace Obamacare with something that doesn't at least limit individual health expense liability to <$10K/year for all US citizens, probably more like $5K/year when it's said and done.

Nah, the Democrats won't stop until they get the same for illegals, too.

[Ronnie]

Lol I guess most of America is "Crazy" as well since they support his proposals.

Huh? More Americans support full Obamacare repeal than single-payer.

According to a Gallup poll conducted in the middle of last year, that's not true:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx

[Comrade Funk]

Lol I guess most of America is "Crazy" as well since they support his proposals.

Huh? More Americans support full Obamacare repeal than single-payer.

All Americans secretly support socialism, Vosem. It's just that ~neoliberalism~ is preventing them from from actually voting for socialist candidates and policies. Somehow.

Sad that Democrats like this are using red-baiting against single-payer or even UHC. Meanwhile the rest of the first world laughs at our sh**tstain of a system.

Just because you support single-payer or UHC doesn't mean your waving the hammer and sickle. For god's sake...

[LLR]

Ugh this is such a dumb idea if we want to win stuff in 2018 and 2020

[publicunofficial]

I mean, the real problem with healthcare in America is that we've decided that we need the health insurance's industry's approval for any new legislation.

[Skill and Chance]

Lol I guess most of America is "Crazy" as well since they support his proposals.

Huh? More Americans support full Obamacare repeal than single-payer.

I think this is going to end with something like the German, Swiss or Australian system in 10 years, not single payer and certainly not a federal NHS.

It's going to be politically impossible to replace Obamacare with something that doesn't at least limit individual health expense liability to <$10K/year for all US citizens, probably more like $5K/year when it's said and done.

My thoughts as well. But I'd also add the Netherlands as another likely and potential model.

Their system is way too relaxed about euthanasia for my tastes.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Anyone who supports total government control of  healthcare is crazy

[I Won - Get Over It]

Anyone who does not support a universal healthcare (single-payer or not) is an idiot.

[Lief 🗽]

Lol I guess most of America is "Crazy" as well since they support his proposals.

Huh? More Americans support full Obamacare repeal than single-payer.

All Americans secretly support socialism, Vosem. It's just that ~neoliberalism~ is preventing them from from actually voting for socialist candidates and policies. Somehow.

Sad that Democrats like this are using red-baiting against single-payer or even UHC. Meanwhile the rest of the first world laughs at our sh**tstain of a system.

Just because you support single-payer or UHC doesn't mean your waving the hammer and sickle. For god's sake...

I did not intend to redbait, just using "socialism" as a shorthand for Sanders' left-wing policies, since he, you know, calls himself a socialist and all.