East Chicago CRISIS: Mayor Anthony Copland kicking families out due to lead.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/news/ct-ptb-east-chicago-relocation-protest-st-0325-20170324-story.html

Also video of the outraged citizens of east Chicago from TYT Politics.
https://youtu.be/U7BgCfBe_sk

This is sickening what is going on in America with no sympathy for any of these families from the local and federal government.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Obviously the problem is that they live in East Chicago and not Flint. If they were living there, government would have no problem letting them soak up lead.

[Green Line]

There is so much lead, they need to go.  Clean drinking water is more important than interrupting the school year.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

There is so much lead, they need to go.  Clean drinking water is more important than interrupting the school year.

No empathy whatsoever huh? They have known about the lead and arsenic levels for a while now, if they actually cared for people's safety they would have fixed this issue a long time ago. People are just now figuring out why they have gotten so sick. I doubt you would have the same opinion if this were affecting you.

[Rjjr77]

They literally live in a side of town built on a closed down lead processing plant, the soil in those 300+ acres is contaminated

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

They literally live in a side of town built on a closed down lead processing plant, the soil in those 300+ acres is contaminated

Its like that canal in Buffalo that was filled up with toxic waste, covered, developed and 30 years later "oh sh**t, we got kids getting cancer and there is something leaching out on the Elementary School Playground". That was in the late 70's.

This is all across the rust belt in one form or another. A product of pre-regulation industrialization and development of stuff using materials that were toxic (like lead pipe, asbestos insulation, etc). And typically the "oh crap, we built a school on toxic waste" is made years prior and buried for a long time until the truth is found out. 

In North Binghamton, NY, there is a plaza that was built on a garbage waste dump in the 1960's. For the last 30 years or so, it's anchor was K-Mart. Apparently, there were toxic vapors emanating up from the numerous pot holes in the parking lot in the early 2010's. Anyway, it doesn't matter now because K-Mart closed that store in December. I know we went there a lot in the 1990's and early 2000's.

And of course in Endicott, NY there is a giant plume of waste underneath a substantial number of residential homes, that came from IBM's operations in the area.

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They literally live in a side of town built on a closed down lead processing plant, the soil in those 300+ acres is contaminated

Its like that canal in Buffalo that was filled up with toxic waste, covered, developed and 30 years later "oh sh**t, we got kids getting cancer and there is something leaching out on the Elementary School Playground". That was in the late 70's.

This is all across the rust belt in one form or another. A product of pre-regulation industrialization and development of stuff using materials that were toxic (like lead pipe, asbestos insulation, etc). And typically the "oh crap, we built a school on toxic waste" is made years prior and buried for a long time until the truth is found out. 

In North Binghamton, NY, there is a plaza that was built on a garbage waste dump in the 1960's. For the last 30 years or so, it's anchor was K-Mart. Apparently, there were toxic vapors emanating up from the numerous pot holes in the parking lot in the early 2010's. Anyway, it doesn't matter now because K-Mart closed that store in December. I know we went there a lot in the 1990's and early 2000's.

And of course in Endicott, NY there is a giant plume of waste underneath a substantial number of residential homes, that came from IBM's operations in the area.

All problems for the magical hand of the free market to completely cure if you'd just deregulate everything and have massive tax cuts.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

They need to leave but sounds like the city is really forking up the response. They should have started with some sort of community meeting telling the residents the situation and addressing their concerns.

[Rjjr77]

They need to leave but sounds like the city is really forking up the response. They should have started with some sort of community meeting telling the residents the situation and addressing their concerns.

This is not new. The city has spoken to residents about this for over a year.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

They need to leave but sounds like the city is really forking up the response. They should have started with some sort of community meeting telling the residents the situation and addressing their concerns.

This is not new. The city has spoken to residents about this for over a year.

The question is: what was the quality of the engagement?

[Rjjr77]

They need to leave but sounds like the city is really forking up the response. They should have started with some sort of community meeting telling the residents the situation and addressing their concerns.

This is not new. The city has spoken to residents about this for over a year.

The question is: what was the quality of the engagement?

The reality is there will be people who just won't listen.

[dead0man]

They literally live in a side of town built on a closed down lead processing plant, the soil in those 300+ acres is contaminated

Its like that canal in Buffalo that was filled up with toxic waste, covered, developed and 30 years later "oh sh**t, we got kids getting cancer and there is something leaching out on the Elementary School Playground". That was in the late 70's.

This is all across the rust belt in one form or another. A product of pre-regulation industrialization and development of stuff using materials that were toxic (like lead pipe, asbestos insulation, etc). And typically the "oh crap, we built a school on toxic waste" is made years prior and buried for a long time until the truth is found out. 

In North Binghamton, NY, there is a plaza that was built on a garbage waste dump in the 1960's. For the last 30 years or so, it's anchor was K-Mart. Apparently, there were toxic vapors emanating up from the numerous pot holes in the parking lot in the early 2010's. Anyway, it doesn't matter now because K-Mart closed that store in December. I know we went there a lot in the 1990's and early 2000's.

And of course in Endicott, NY there is a giant plume of waste underneath a substantial number of residential homes, that came from IBM's operations in the area.

All problems for the magical hand of the free market to completely cure if you'd just deregulate everything and have massive tax cuts.

the free market doesn't build schools on toxic waste dumps.  govts do though.  Knowing full well what they are building on.

[Ebowed]

the free market doesn't build schools on toxic waste dumps.  govts do though.  Knowing full well what they are building on.

Very fair point.  I think government decision making and complacency in the way these communities have been treated really does deserve a lot more scrutiny.

We know that with Flint, there is strong evidence that the state government knew the full extent of the situation and turned a blind eye.

There is no "easy" way to fix an issue like this, now that people will be suffering the consequences for the rest of their lives.  A generation of people with cognitive deficits and behavioral problems.  It really makes you hope that we would stop something like this from ever happening again - but, well, there's cause for pessimism on that front.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

They need to leave but sounds like the city is really forking up the response. They should have started with some sort of community meeting telling the residents the situation and addressing their concerns.

This is not new. The city has spoken to residents about this for over a year.

The question is: what was the quality of the engagement?

The reality is there will be people who just won't listen.

The problem isn't the people it's the local government's incompetence. When people moved in to these homes they had no idea the scale of this. Also remember that some of these folks have already had to relocate so they are basically getting told to move again.