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smoltchanov
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« on: March 29, 2017, 01:33:23 AM »

An important thing to consider here- WHICH monarchy?? Absolutist old-Russia style? That's what we do have now (in all but name), with Putin being "de facto tsar". Swedish-style constitutional monarchy? Even i, who don't cherish monarchy too much generally, would agree. And so on....
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smoltchanov
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2017, 04:05:58 AM »

An important thing to consider here- WHICH monarchy?? Absolutist old-Russia style? That's what we do have now (in all but name), with Putin being "de facto tsar". Swedish-style constitutional monarchy? Even i, who don't cherish monarchy too much generally, would agree. And so on....
Personally I favor the monarch having a fair amount of actual power to check the Parliament, but mechanisms existing for rendering them powerless for periods if they step over the line. But it would be hard enacting that in practice.

Especially in Russia. The only form of monarchy it knew is an absolute one...
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smoltchanov
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2017, 11:46:18 PM »

One important point to acknowledge here is that, should Russia decide to return to a monarchy, there is a succession dispute as to who the current monarch would be between Maria Vladimirovna and Andrew Romanov, who interestingly enough, actually lives in Marin County, California. He was also born just three weeks after the founding of the USSR.

Maria Vladimirovna is officially endorsed by the Patriarch of Moscow, so it's hard to imagine anyone else being chosen if they did restore the Romanovs.


Where did you read this? I can't remember any speech from Patriarch Kirill, where he supported reconstruction of monarchy. Also he isn't independent powerful figure.

In fact - he is absolutely dependent. Much more so then his predecessor. A servant of Putin, in one phrase. With even more hardline views.
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smoltchanov
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2017, 12:02:06 AM »

One important point to acknowledge here is that, should Russia decide to return to a monarchy, there is a succession dispute as to who the current monarch would be between Maria Vladimirovna and Andrew Romanov, who interestingly enough, actually lives in Marin County, California. He was also born just three weeks after the founding of the USSR.

Maria Vladimirovna is officially endorsed by the Patriarch of Moscow, so it's hard to imagine anyone else being chosen if they did restore the Romanovs.


Where did you read this? I can't remember any speech from Patriarch Kirill, where he supported reconstruction of monarchy. Also he isn't independent powerful figure.

A monarchy of course wouldn't necessarily be Romanov. The House of Putin, anyone? Wink

Would he have sons instead of daughters it could be a grim reality..
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smoltchanov
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2017, 10:24:28 AM »

One important point to acknowledge here is that, should Russia decide to return to a monarchy, there is a succession dispute as to who the current monarch would be between Maria Vladimirovna and Andrew Romanov, who interestingly enough, actually lives in Marin County, California. He was also born just three weeks after the founding of the USSR.

Maria Vladimirovna is officially endorsed by the Patriarch of Moscow, so it's hard to imagine anyone else being chosen if they did restore the Romanovs.


Where did you read this? I can't remember any speech from Patriarch Kirill, where he supported reconstruction of monarchy. Also he isn't independent powerful figure.


A monarchy of course wouldn't necessarily be Romanov. The House of Putin, anyone? Wink

Would he have sons instead of daughters it could be a grim reality..

Russia has had several ruling Zarinas. If the daughter of Peter the Great could rule Russia, why not the daughter of Vladimir the Great? ;-)

Peter was greater))))
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smoltchanov
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2017, 04:31:30 AM »

An important thing to consider here- WHICH monarchy?? Absolutist old-Russia style? That's what we do have now (in all but name), with Putin being "de facto tsar". Swedish-style constitutional monarchy? Even i, who don't cherish monarchy too much generally, would agree. And so on....
Personally I favor the monarch having a fair amount of actual power to check the Parliament, but mechanisms existing for rendering them powerless for periods if they step over the line. But it would be hard enacting that in practice.

Especially in Russia. The only form of monarchy it knew is an absolute one...

Besides 1905-1917...


Technically yes. But even then it was far less democratic then in most of the "Europe"...
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