Justice Department to withhold grants from sanctuary cities

[SteveRogers]

There's a difference between refusing to aid ICE and actively sabotaging. What several cities are doing under far-left leaders crosses the line into the latter. That's not states' rights, that's nullification.

Examples?

Bill De Blasio refusing to honor warrants from ICE for known gang criminals and choosing to release them into the general public rather than ICE custody.

Source?

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

There's a difference between refusing to aid ICE and actively sabotaging. What several cities are doing under far-left leaders crosses the line into the latter. That's not states' rights, that's nullification.

Examples?

Bill De Blasio refusing to honor warrants from ICE for known gang criminals and choosing to release them into the general public rather than ICE custody.

Source?

Probably some respectable and proven news organization with White House press credentials. Like Breitbart, Infowars and the Russian government RT.

[Ebowed]

Who pays for the Justice Department if not the taxpayers in "sanctuary cities"?

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

There's a difference between refusing to aid ICE and actively sabotaging. What several cities are doing under far-left leaders crosses the line into the latter. That's not states' rights, that's nullification.

Examples?

Bill De Blasio refusing to honor warrants from ICE for known gang criminals and choosing to release them into the general public rather than ICE custody.

Source?

Probably some respectable and proven news organization with White House press credentials. Like Breitbart, Infowars and the Russian government RT.

It was literally a mainstream national news story.

http://pix11.com/2017/02/22/alleged-gang-members-prison-release-highlights-divide-between-ice-mayor-de-blasio/

[MasterJedi]

Have the states where these cities are located (since many of them are in liberal states) withhold said states tax revenue to the federal government.

[SteveRogers]

There's a difference between refusing to aid ICE and actively sabotaging. What several cities are doing under far-left leaders crosses the line into the latter. That's not states' rights, that's nullification.

Examples?

Bill De Blasio refusing to honor warrants from ICE for known gang criminals and choosing to release them into the general public rather than ICE custody.

Source?

Probably some respectable and proven news organization with White House press credentials. Like Breitbart, Infowars and the Russian government RT.

It was literally a mainstream national news story.

http://pix11.com/2017/02/22/alleged-gang-members-prison-release-highlights-divide-between-ice-mayor-de-blasio/

Oh that's the one I assumed you were referring to. Yeah an ICE detainer request isn't a warrant. Big difference.

[rafta_rafta]

ICE is getting a big budget boost, surely they should be able to undertake immigration operations without expecting state forces assistance.

[DC Al Fine]

I typically hate the term 'common sense policy' but I don't think it has ever made sense for cities to blatantly break federal law and expect to receive funding regardless. Good move by the administration. Sanctuary cities are wrong.

[SteveRogers]

I typically hate the term 'common sense policy' but I don't think it has ever made sense for cities to blatantly break federal law and expect to receive funding regardless. Good move by the administration. Sanctuary cities are wrong.

What laws are the cities "blatantly breaking?" Can you name one?

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

There's a difference between refusing to aid ICE and actively sabotaging. What several cities are doing under far-left leaders crosses the line into the latter. That's not states' rights, that's nullification.

Examples?

Bill De Blasio refusing to honor warrants from ICE for known gang criminals and choosing to release them into the general public rather than ICE custody.

Source?

Probably some respectable and proven news organization with White House press credentials. Like Breitbart, Infowars and the Russian government RT.

It was literally a mainstream national news story.

http://pix11.com/2017/02/22/alleged-gang-members-prison-release-highlights-divide-between-ice-mayor-de-blasio/

Oh that's the one I assumed you were referring to. Yeah an ICE detainer request isn't a warrant. Big difference.

Procedural difference, maybe, but a city can't expect to actively sabotage and undermine a federal agency without financial retaliation.

[SteveRogers]

There's a difference between refusing to aid ICE and actively sabotaging. What several cities are doing under far-left leaders crosses the line into the latter. That's not states' rights, that's nullification.

Examples?

Bill De Blasio refusing to honor warrants from ICE for known gang criminals and choosing to release them into the general public rather than ICE custody.

Source?

Probably some respectable and proven news organization with White House press credentials. Like Breitbart, Infowars and the Russian government RT.

It was literally a mainstream national news story.

http://pix11.com/2017/02/22/alleged-gang-members-prison-release-highlights-divide-between-ice-mayor-de-blasio/

Oh that's the one I assumed you were referring to. Yeah an ICE detainer request isn't a warrant. Big difference.

Procedural difference, maybe, but a city can't expect to actively sabotage and undermine a federal agency without financial retaliation.

No, not a "procedural difference"; a Constitutional difference. A letter from ICE doesn't amount to probable cause for anything. Absent a proper arrest warrant from the federal agency, state law enforcement has no jurisdiction to extend the period of someone's detention once their state case is dispensed with (and are in fact violating that person's constitutional rights if they do so). If ICE has actual probable cause to believe that a person is in this country illegally, and they know that person is in state jail for a couple days, then thats probably a good time to go get an arrest warrant. Every other law enforcement agency recognizes they need a warrant to go pick somebody up. Why is it so hard for ICE?

[Blue3]

I really don't see this as an issue... this is certainly within the Trump administration's right.


Honestly, I don't like how the federal government orders states to do things and then provides funding. Either the federal government should do it completely, or the state should be self-sufficient.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

What are these grants that they won't be able to get?   It sounds from the announcement that there are other methods of making the cities comply with this that they are looking at also (?)