Trump to sign executive order repealing climate change regulations

[Mr. Smith]

So I guess we need the return of smog?

China is really kicking our ass there. Trump will stand up to those smog champions.

But they were laughing at us!...That or wheezing...one of those-but how dare they!

[BlueSwan]

Republicans sure are united in wanting to make the world uninhabitable for future generations. Despicable pieces of scum.

[Figueira]

Thanks, Jill Stein voters.

[Intell]

Thanks, Jill Stein voters.

lol.

[Ichabod]

And whom is going to blame Trump once be pretty obvious that coal jobs in the Appalachian are not returning by his executive order?

[HAnnA MArin County]

And whom is going to blame Trump once be pretty obvious that coal jobs in the Appalachian are not returning by his executive order?

They'll do what they always do: blame the black guy.

[Middle-aged Europe]

And whom is going to blame Trump once be pretty obvious that coal jobs in the Appalachian are not returning by his executive order?

The Democrats!

[SWE]

YES!!!!!!! APPLACHIA IS SAVED!!!!!

Stop embarrassing yourself.

[I Won - Get Over It]

Coal production versus employment since 1880:

It'll be fascinating to look back on this decision and evaluate how many "coal jobs" it has "saved."

So sad that people living in coal country are actually falling for this charlatanry.

Even if the result is a wash, still better than Clinton who would have worked to lower that number to ZERO very quickly.

The graph can be pretty misleading. Part of increase of coal productions is explained by more mines/workers, but the larges part can be explained by much higher productivity due to automatisation and progress.

But I doubt that Trump's deregulations will result in a big increase of productivity if any, but they could possibly result in more mines/jobs or, at least, slow down the decline.


And the main point of the order is a "energy independence", no?

[Meclazine for Israel]

But I doubt that Trump's deregulations will result in a big increase of productivity if any, but they could possibly result in more mines/jobs or, at least, slow down the decline.

No ingenuity in the mining industry comes from government. Private sectoe competition is where it comes from.

USA is way over regulated for mineral exploration.

In reality, coal will be with us for the next 200 years.

Then we start running out.

Reliable sources of renewable energy generated from wind and solar will be more important.

Gas fired power stations are also important.

You are going to need multiple power options.

Hopefully Trump sees this.

[Sir Mohamed]

So I guess we need the return of smog?

China is really kicking our ass there. Trump will stand up to those smog champions.

While China is pumping trillions into alternative energy....in America,  we're debating bathroom laws

More important, we’re not investing in renewable and green energy. A big problem. While China and others, including Europe and Japan, are heavily investing in modern (electric) speed railroads, we’re still stuck with old and slow trains that run with coal and pollute the environment twice: through their own emissions and the resulting increase in street traffic. The public transportation system in the US, especially railways, is outdated for a very long time. Actually we’re a third-world country with regard to railroads, which is pretty sad for a superpower. We should be investing in our infrastructure rather than the military or build a stupid and useless wall.

[MasterJedi]

So I guess we need the return of smog?

China is really kicking our ass there. Trump will stand up to those smog champions.

While China is pumping trillions into alternative energy....in America,  we're debating bathroom laws

More important, we’re not investing in renewable and green energy. A big problem. While China and others, including Europe and Japan, are heavily investing in modern (electric) speed railroads, we’re still stuck with old and slow trains that run with coal and pollute the environment twice: through their own emissions and the resulting increase in street traffic. The public transportation system in the US, especially railways, is outdated for a very long time. Actually we’re a third-world country with regard to railroads, which is pretty sad for a superpower. We should be investing in our infrastructure rather than the military or build a stupid and useless wall.

Rail, whatever it be, heavy rail, LRT, streetcar, etc is generally opposed by conservatives. Had to fight tooth and nail for a streetcar in Milwaukee and then have the suburbs come in and try and make it fail. Wisconsin for example has also made it illegal for different municipalities to work together on transit.

[WMS]

You live by the Executive Order, you die by the Executive Order. This is why you don't use them to make policy changes...or did the Dems think they were always going to have the Presidency?

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

You live by the Executive Order, you die by the Executive Order. This is why you don't use them to make policy changes...or did the Dems think they were always going to have the Presidency?

The Dems thought they had a permanent path to 270 through the upper Midwest, NV/CO/NM, NH, and VA.

[WMS]

You live by the Executive Order, you die by the Executive Order. This is why you don't use them to make policy changes...or did the Dems think they were always going to have the Presidency?

The Dems thought they had a permanent path to 270 through the upper Midwest, NV/CO/NM, NH, and VA.

Pride goes before a fall, or something along those lines...

I've been around long enough to have seen both parties think they had finally permanently routed the other one, but the last time that happened was in the 1850s when the Whigs blew up. The pendulum swings and all that.

[Bojack Horseman]

It's externalities that are causing the problems the coal industry is having: you've mined coal for so long that you have to dig deeper and deeper into the mines to dig it up, making it harder and more dangerous. It's not Obama's fault West Virginia is in the mess it's in, it's their own fault because they'd rather live in the past and stubbornly remain fixated on coal, rather than keep up with the times and attract new businesses and corporations to their state. But of course, it's just easier to blame Obama for that than face reality.

[cvparty]

so glad we finally have an intellectual president!

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

The bad thing about trump's policy is its fundamental deceit. Quite aside from the fact that his plan to 'save' the industry involves removing everything that people liked about the jobs in the first place (namely it was a solid, largely secure paycheque for working class individuals with little education) and glossing over the fact that industry, largely wishing to shed obligations like cleaning up, pensions and dealing with black lung, are cheerfully tossing them away; the lack of a transition plan means that all coal communities are still entirely at the mercy of market forces.

All deep coal mines and coal plants in the country are at a very real risk of closing with very little forewarning, and if the government fails to prepare for this, you're going to see more and more localised recessions as coal mines and plants shutter with no plan.

Not that the democrats are blameless tbh, but that was more their callous advertising and lack of empathy than anything else. I think most thinking people of Appalachia know that the GOP has no substantial ideas, and the ideas they have are from the minds of hated individuals like Ross, Murray and Blankenship. But at least trump and his ilk make an effort to empathise.

[Figueira]

Thanks, Jill Stein voters.

lol.

Am I wrong?

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Thanks, Jill Stein voters.

lol.

Am I wrong?

Clinton should have been able to win over 300 EVs without breaking much of a sweat, given her opponent. Her bad campaign is why she lost, not the berniebros who voted Stein.

[krazen1211]

Amazing news! No more stealing the treasury.

[Ebowed]

I hope you folks all know how to grow your own food.

[7,052,770]

Thanks, Jill Stein voters.

lol.

Am I wrong?

Clinton should have been able to win over 300 EVs without breaking much of a sweat, given her opponent. Her bad campaign is why she lost, not the berniebros who voted Stein.

Will you just never admit that Trump was actually a good candidate, in that he brought in millions of first-time voters and also reached out to centrist Democrats while somehow maintaining almost all of the evangelical voters?

No other Republican could have pulled that off. No other Republican could have beaten Hillary.

[Ebowed]

No other Republican could have pulled that off. No other Republican could have beaten Hillary.

Kasich and even Cruz were leading Clinton in GE polling earlier in 2016.  It was basically essential for Trump to win the nomination in order for Clinton to have a good chance of victory.

[Figueira]

Thanks, Jill Stein voters.

lol.

Am I wrong?

Clinton should have been able to win over 300 EVs without breaking much of a sweat, given her opponent. Her bad campaign is why she lost, not the berniebros who voted Stein.

Actually both are responsible but OK.