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Question: For which party would you vote in this hypothetical scenario?
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« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2017, 03:29:47 PM »

This is a great Democratic Party. Give me that all day.
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« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2017, 04:27:05 PM »


Republican Party

Base: Urban (I don't think modern urban areas are compatible with conservatism), suburban, managerial class, small business owners, Whites with a college education, Mainline Protestants, Irreligious, White collar (despite popular belief, I don't actually care about this), upper class African Americans and Hispanics, Asians; New England, West Coast (the politics of the West Coast aren't those of people who would be Republicans if they weren't so intolerant ... they're just politics of the far left), Mid-Atlantic

Ideology: Centrism, Classical Liberalism, Conservative Liberalism

Policies: Pro-choice (would prefer big tent, but that might not be realistic), legalize euthanasia, legalize marijuana, pro-gay marriage, mixed on gun rights, pro-immigration, pro-business, tax cuts and deregulation, balancing budget, right to work, supports business-government environmental collaboration, internationalist foreign policy with mixed interventionism/non-interventionism, supports free trade

Since others have edited stuff, this is my ideal.
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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2017, 05:32:06 PM »

Republican most of the time, but I'd be a perennial swing voter. I kind of wish this was the paradigm now.
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« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2017, 06:10:43 PM »

Given the reactions of some of the more Trumpian conservatives, I'm thinking the party labels may make more sense swapped.

Who says that the Trumpists should be in charge? Tongue
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« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2017, 06:20:42 PM »


Republican Party

Base: Urban, suburban, managerial class, small business owners, Whites with a college education, Mainline Protestants, Irreligious, White collar, upper class African Americans and Hispanics, Asians; New England, West Coast, Mid-Atlantic

Ideology: Centrism, Classical Liberalism, Conservative Liberalism

Policies: Pro-choice, legalize euthanasia, legalize marijuana, pro-gay marriage, mixed on gun rights, pro-immigration, pro-business (depends on what this actually means), tax cuts and deregulation (sounds tolerable in theory, typically very bad in practice), balancing budget, right to work, supports business-government environmental collaboration, internationalist foreign policy with mixed interventionism/non-interventionism, supports free trade

This version of the Republican Party looks good to me, although I might be willing to give a socially moderate, local Democrat a look if they aren't too dogmatic on abortion. The "religious freedom" part is a huge turnoff though, and a Democratic Party that's "mixed" on the environment doesn't sound like one I want to be a part of.
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« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2017, 06:50:12 PM »

Ugh, I would hate this world!  I guess the Democrats solely because of social issues, but just flipping where each stood on abortion would send me back to the Republicans.  I really don't like populism, though!
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« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2017, 11:15:10 PM »
« Edited: March 28, 2017, 11:17:17 PM by Fremont Assemblyman RFayette »

Somewhere between this:

Democratic Party by far, though I'd probably be to their left on the environment and would probably still swing GOP at points if the candidate is left enough on the economy.

But I'm not going with a right-to-work, deregulation lovin', pro-euthanasia party as my default.

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I'd be a much more enthusiastic Dem than I am a GOPer IRL

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Ugh, I would hate this world!  I guess the Democrats solely because of social issues, but just flipping where each stood on abortion would send me back to the Republicans.  I really don't like populism, though!

I definitely would vote Democratic in this scenario, though I would not be a fan of their tax policy at all. 
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« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2017, 02:07:45 AM »

Democratic Party, easily
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« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2017, 02:32:28 AM »

Democrats, of course.
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« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2017, 03:46:37 AM »

Republican because of social issues, but a very reluctant vote.
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« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2017, 12:27:04 PM »

Lean R, but I'd probably be some kind of swing voter.
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« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2017, 09:37:47 PM »

I'd most certainly be a total swing voter with this Democratic and Republican parties. Both parties have very diverse political views (and my views are supported by both parties), and the candidate I support would most likely be based off the issues they emphasize the most.
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« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2017, 10:11:55 PM »

I'd be an Independent who votes Democrat most of the time, but I'd probably never be happy about it, and would be willing to vote Republican if they were centrist economically or if the Democratic messaging on social issues was similar to RL Republicans.
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« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2017, 10:58:04 PM »
« Edited: March 29, 2017, 10:59:41 PM by SlippingJimmy »

Republican, through and through, and even more so if they are strongly in favor of preserving gun rights, willing to accept something like a 5-month ban on abortions, and support reciprocity in trade as a qualification to their support of free trade.
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« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2017, 11:43:22 PM »

Republican, through and through, and even more so if they are strongly in favor of preserving gun rights, willing to accept something like a 5-month ban on abortions, and support reciprocity in trade as a qualification to their support of free trade.

Well, that would make me go independent Tongue
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« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2017, 11:53:52 PM »

Republican, through and through, and even more so if they are strongly in favor of preserving gun rights, willing to accept something like a 5-month ban on abortions, and support reciprocity in trade as a qualification to their support of free trade.

Well, that would make me go independent Tongue

Me too. But with initial program i would go Republican immediately....
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« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2017, 03:25:02 AM »

probably democrat. sounds somewhat similar to my views.
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« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2017, 03:59:05 AM »

somewhat reluctantly a Democrat, which would make it unchanged from who I am ITTL except that i'd be a horrible fit culturally in this world though I value economic equality enough that it outweighs the other stuff.
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« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2017, 04:57:53 AM »

Democratic Party

Base: Rural, small town, White working class, Whites without a college education, Evangelical Protestants, Blue collar, unionized workers, African Americans, Hispanics, Catholics; Southeast, Appalachia, Rust Belt

Ideology: Populism, Christian Democracy, Social Conservatism

Policies: Pro-life, anti-euthanasia, supports "religious freedom" legislation, supports gun rights, limiting immigration, higher minimum wage, expanding social safety net, universal healthcare, mixed on environment, generally isolationist foreign policy with mixed interventionism/non-interventionism, against free trade

Sounds just about ideal, actually.

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« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2017, 09:30:34 AM »

Mostly Democrat, although climate denial may push me to vote for the occasional  Republican, with some moderation on some positions like

support reciprocity in trade as a qualification to their support of free trade.
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« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2017, 10:35:41 AM »

The one that doesn't try to gloss over its anti-poor, anti-masses agenda with liberal stances on the same kinds of social issues that IRL, have somehow become critically important litmus tests for 21st century Democrats.
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« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2017, 11:56:03 AM »

The one that doesn't try to gloss over its anti-poor, anti-masses agenda with liberal stances on the same kinds of social issues that IRL, have somehow become critically important litmus tests for 21st century Democrats.

In the 20th century, both parties used to be pro-choice and support the Equal Rights Amendment.
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« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2017, 11:58:21 AM »

The one that doesn't try to gloss over its anti-poor, anti-masses agenda with liberal stances on the same kinds of social issues that IRL, have somehow become critically important litmus tests for 21st century Democrats.

In the 20th century, both parties used to be pro-choice and support the Equal Rights Amendment.

Then it seems Progress is winning.
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« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2017, 12:00:11 PM »

The one that doesn't try to gloss over its anti-poor, anti-masses agenda with liberal stances on the same kinds of social issues that IRL, have somehow become critically important litmus tests for 21st century Democrats.

In the 20th century, both parties used to be pro-choice and support the Equal Rights Amendment.

Then it seems Progress is winning.

No, it is losing.
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« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2017, 12:16:06 PM »

The one that doesn't try to gloss over its anti-poor, anti-masses agenda with liberal stances on the same kinds of social issues that IRL, have somehow become critically important litmus tests for 21st century Democrats.

In the 20th century, both parties used to be pro-choice and support the Equal Rights Amendment.

Is there really evidence of this?  Sure, (at least on the surface) it seems there used to be more pro-choice Republicans and pro-life Democrats, but I'm not sure there was ever a time where there was a national consensus that abortion should be legal ... I might be wrong, I guess.
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