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« on: March 28, 2017, 02:11:49 PM »

Unarmed legal resident in critical condition after ICE agents raided Chicago home and shot him: family

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/unarmed-legal-resident-in-critical-condition-after-ice-agents-raided-chicago-home-and-shot-him-family/

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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2017, 02:21:25 PM »

This remains to be seen...I don't like how this story is heading, but again, more information to be seen. I hope the mainstream media and other alternative media have this as the top story today and tomorrow. I am sick and tired of hearing about Nunes, Trump, Russia.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2017, 03:01:50 PM »

Those ICE Agents and their superiors need to be locked up.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2017, 03:11:05 PM »

A bunch of thugs it seems.
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2017, 03:21:17 PM »

Those ICE Agents and their superiors need to be locked up.
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2017, 05:49:33 PM »

Pretty obvious that ICE needs to be liquidated once Democrats take back power.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2017, 05:51:01 PM »

Ah yes, Trump's America, the land of freedom, where government agents can just burst into your home at any time and shoot you for a suspected civil offense.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2017, 05:54:36 PM »
« Edited: March 28, 2017, 05:58:21 PM by Green Line »

Yes, lets lock up the ICE agents based off absolutely no facts aside from the rock solid word of the family.  Im sure the officer hallucinated when he thought someone was pointing a gun at him, or better yet made up the entire thing just so they could go to a totally random house and shoot someone.  You guys are so readily willing to believe the first thing you read in some cases.
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2017, 05:56:04 PM »

Yes, lets lock up the ICE agents based off absolutely no facts aside from the rock solid word of the family.  Im sure the officer hallucinated when he thought someone was pointing a gun at him, or better yet made up the entire thing just so they could go to a totally random house and shoot someone.  You guys are so readily willing be believe the first thing you read in some cases.
This is the just the most recent in a long line of abuses from these lawless thugs. For ours sake, ICE needs to be stopped.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2017, 06:48:02 PM »

Green Line hates legal immigrants. Especially if they aren't white.
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2017, 08:38:00 PM »

I'll believe the police on this one as they say the man had a gun. If he didn't though, it's somewhat disturbing.
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2017, 08:59:02 PM »

I'll believe the police on this one as they say the man had a gun. If he didn't though, it's somewhat disturbing.

False, reports are out that no one was armed especially since it was 6am.
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2017, 09:14:54 PM »

It's only going to get worse. Trump is empowering the Police State, he wants it to be like his comrades country, Vladimir Putin.
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2017, 10:53:10 PM »


I don't know why ICE was there.  But a few facts to go with your hysteria:

1) Felix Torres was never in critical condition, he was shot in the arm after he pointed a gun at the officer.  He is in stable condition at Stroger Hospital.

2) Felix Torres doesn't "own" a gun (I don't know if a non-citizen can legally own a gun or not) but his adult sons do.  He pointed a gun at the officer during an attempted arrest and was shot.  His son was wanted on felony weapons charges.

I'm not saying everything was above board, we hardly know anything yet.  And I have no idea why ICE was involved.  But again, not in critical condition, not unarmed. 

Bottom line, no matter who is right or wrong, if you point a weapon at a police officer you are going to get shot.  That's just the way it is.  Let them make the arrest and sue them later.  You can't point a gun at a cop and expect not to get shot.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-shot-by-ice-agent-in-belmont-cragin/1820175/



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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2017, 10:54:53 PM »

ICE agents should not be armed in the first place.
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2017, 11:06:14 PM »

Pretty obvious that ICE needs to be liquidated once Democrats take back power.

and Democrats still deny they support open borders.
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2017, 11:08:08 PM »


I don't know why ICE was there.  But a few facts to go with your hysteria:

1) Felix Torres was never in critical condition, he was shot in the arm after he pointed a gun at the officer.  He is in stable condition at Stroger Hospital.

2) Felix Torres doesn't "own" a gun (I don't know if a non-citizen can legally own a gun or not) but his adult sons do.  He pointed a gun at the officer during an attempted arrest and was shot.  His son was wanted on felony weapons charges.

I'm not saying everything was above board, we hardly know anything yet.  And I have no idea why ICE was involved.  But again, not in critical condition, not unarmed. 

Bottom line, no matter who is right or wrong, if you point a weapon at a police officer you are going to get shot.  That's just the way it is.  Let them make the arrest and sue them later.  You can't point a gun at a cop and expect not to get shot.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-shot-by-ice-agent-in-belmont-cragin/1820175/





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ICE says he was armed. His family says he was not. (Typical Law Enforcement MO is to always claim anyone who is shot by LE was armed.) So far as I know, there is no evidence either way.

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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2017, 11:46:05 PM »


I don't know why ICE was there.  But a few facts to go with your hysteria:

1) Felix Torres was never in critical condition, he was shot in the arm after he pointed a gun at the officer.  He is in stable condition at Stroger Hospital.

2) Felix Torres doesn't "own" a gun (I don't know if a non-citizen can legally own a gun or not) but his adult sons do.  He pointed a gun at the officer during an attempted arrest and was shot.  His son was wanted on felony weapons charges.

I'm not saying everything was above board, we hardly know anything yet.  And I have no idea why ICE was involved.  But again, not in critical condition, not unarmed. 

Bottom line, no matter who is right or wrong, if you point a weapon at a police officer you are going to get shot.  That's just the way it is.  Let them make the arrest and sue them later.  You can't point a gun at a cop and expect not to get shot.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-shot-by-ice-agent-in-belmont-cragin/1820175/





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And if you read elsewhere, she was asleep in the basement when it happened.  But there were guns in the house.  I wasn't there, you weren't there, and she wasn't either.  Her reasoning is  father doesn't "own (got)" a gun; therefore he couldn't have pointed one at the officers.

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There will be a full investigation, as with any time a weapon is discharged in the line of duty.
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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2017, 07:35:15 AM »


I don't know why ICE was there.  But a few facts to go with your hysteria:

1) Felix Torres was never in critical condition, he was shot in the arm after he pointed a gun at the officer.  He is in stable condition at Stroger Hospital.

2) Felix Torres doesn't "own" a gun (I don't know if a non-citizen can legally own a gun or not) but his adult sons do.  He pointed a gun at the officer during an attempted arrest and was shot.  His son was wanted on felony weapons charges.

I'm not saying everything was above board, we hardly know anything yet.  And I have no idea why ICE was involved.  But again, not in critical condition, not unarmed. 

Bottom line, no matter who is right or wrong, if you point a weapon at a police officer you are going to get shot.  That's just the way it is.  Let them make the arrest and sue them later.  You can't point a gun at a cop and expect not to get shot.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-shot-by-ice-agent-in-belmont-cragin/1820175/





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ICE says he was armed. His family says he was not. (Typical Law Enforcement MO is to always claim anyone who is shot by LE was armed.) So far as I know, there is no evidence either way.



And if you read elsewhere, she was asleep in the basement when it happened.  But there were guns in the house.  I wasn't there, you weren't there, and she wasn't either.  Her reasoning is  father doesn't "own (got)" a gun; therefore he couldn't have pointed one at the officers.

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There will be a full investigation, as with any time a weapon is discharged in the line of duty.

Indeed. Which is why you should not  have presented opinions (yours and ICE's) as "a few facts".
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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2017, 07:58:01 AM »


I don't know why ICE was there.  But a few facts to go with your hysteria:

1) Felix Torres was never in critical condition, he was shot in the arm after he pointed a gun at the officer.  He is in stable condition at Stroger Hospital.

2) Felix Torres doesn't "own" a gun (I don't know if a non-citizen can legally own a gun or not) but his adult sons do.  He pointed a gun at the officer during an attempted arrest and was shot.  His son was wanted on felony weapons charges.

I'm not saying everything was above board, we hardly know anything yet.  And I have no idea why ICE was involved.  But again, not in critical condition, not unarmed. 

Bottom line, no matter who is right or wrong, if you point a weapon at a police officer you are going to get shot.  That's just the way it is.  Let them make the arrest and sue them later.  You can't point a gun at a cop and expect not to get shot.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-shot-by-ice-agent-in-belmont-cragin/1820175/





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ICE says he was armed. His family says he was not. (Typical Law Enforcement MO is to always claim anyone who is shot by LE was armed.) So far as I know, there is no evidence either way.



And if you read elsewhere, she was asleep in the basement when it happened.  But there were guns in the house.  I wasn't there, you weren't there, and she wasn't either.  Her reasoning is  father doesn't "own (got)" a gun; therefore he couldn't have pointed one at the officers.

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Indeed. Which is why you should not  have presented opinions (yours and ICE's) as "a few facts".

And you should not have claimed "he was unarmed" or "he is in critical condition."   The only person who said he was unarmed is a justifiably hysterical daughter who didn't witness the shooting.   
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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2017, 08:11:08 AM »

Sigh...

So Democrats are crying wolf again? That's why Trump won is "Teflon".
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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2017, 08:14:05 AM »

Sigh...

So Democrats are crying wolf again? That's why Trump won is "Teflon".

Lmao, really? How's that wiretap going? How about that attack in Sweden? Or perhaps that biggest EV win in recent history? Healthcare? No?
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2017, 08:19:49 AM »

Can we wait for actual facts before we say anything, unlike what the media are doing.
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2017, 08:29:03 AM »

....... if you point a weapon at a police officer you are going to get shot.  That's just the way it is.......

Give that man a cigar.
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2017, 08:29:59 AM »

This is America...innocent people get shot all the time by law enforcement authorities

Absolutely correct.  In fact more cops have been accidentally shot by their fellow officers than ICE agents shooting legal residents, but let's not throw a pale of water on Grungehost's tendency to rail against anything he feels is Trump related.
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