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« on: March 28, 2017, 03:17:03 PM »
« edited: March 28, 2017, 03:19:11 PM by Virginia »

Exclusive: As Democratic attorneys general target Trump, Republican AGs target them

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-republican-ags-exclusive-idUSKBN16Z1A5

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If I had to guess, this is because of 3 reasons:

1. Republicans can dish it out but not take it, choosing to abandon tradition after Democratic AGs start treating the Republican president like Republican AGs treated Obama.

2. The Republican Party probably feels it has so much power now that any agreements that limit that power even slightly should no longer be honored, as in their eyes, it only hinders complete control.

3. Pressure from business interests to unseat Democrats who hurt their bottom lines. After all, in the party of business, whenever possible, business comes first.
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2017, 03:57:46 PM »

Which states do Democrats even still have elected AG's in that are up in 2018?  Probably not too many states where Republicans can win.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2017, 04:07:16 PM »

Which states do Democrats even still have elected AG's in that are up in 2018?  Probably not too many states where Republicans can win.
Iowa is the big one. If he runs for reelection he'd be favored, but if not the GOP is free to pick it up. Minnesota is also an outside shot if Swanson doesn't run for reelection, but if she doesn't I still think Democrats are favored to hold it.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2017, 04:12:27 PM »

"roll back same sex marriage" what are they nuts?
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2017, 04:19:10 PM »

Which states do Democrats even still have elected AG's in that are up in 2018?  Probably not too many states where Republicans can win.
Iowa is the big one. If he runs for reelection he'd be favored, but if not the GOP is free to pick it up. Minnesota is also an outside shot if Swanson doesn't run for reelection, but if she doesn't I still think Democrats are favored to hold it.

This. If anything, GOP has some exposed seats. NV and MI, for starters, and maybe a few scattered ones here and there.
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2017, 04:22:54 PM »

Which states do Democrats even still have elected AG's in that are up in 2018?  Probably not too many states where Republicans can win.
Iowa is the big one. If he runs for reelection he'd be favored, but if not the GOP is free to pick it up. Minnesota is also an outside shot if Swanson doesn't run for reelection, but if she doesn't I still think Democrats are favored to hold it.

This. If anything, GOP has some exposed seats. NV and MI, for starters, and maybe a few scattered ones here and there.
Nevada I think falls, especially with Laxalt likely to run for Governor. Michigan, Schuette is termed out, I think Tonya Schuitmaker holds it for Republicans but she'll have to work for reelection, unless Democrats punt to go all in on the governor race (kind of like what happened in 2014 IIRC), but there are some potential governor candidates who are lawyers and could drop down to that race. Ohio could be at risk potentially but Dave Yost is a strong candidate and Democrats will likely go after other row offices.

In 2019, Jim Hood (MS) and Andy Beshear (KY) are up. Let's see if either of them run for reelection, or run for governor.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2017, 04:25:51 PM »

1. Republicans can dish it out but not take it, choosing to abandon tradition after Democratic AGs start treating the Republican president like Republican AGs treated Obama.

     I would go with this one as my guess. The kinds of partisans who make it into statewide office are notorious for being able to dish it out, but not being able to take it.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2017, 04:58:22 PM »

The AG that Republicans should be maddest at is Bob Ferguson, and they let him run unopposed last year in an office they held as recently as 2012.
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2017, 06:15:15 PM »

The AG that Republicans should be maddest at is Bob Ferguson, and they let him run unopposed last year in an office they held as recently as 2012.

That was an act of staggering incompetence by the WAGOP.

Not that they would have won, I don't think, but still
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2017, 07:38:40 PM »

Which states do Democrats even still have elected AG's in that are up in 2018?  Probably not too many states where Republicans can win.
Iowa is the big one. If he runs for reelection he'd be favored, but if not the GOP is free to pick it up. Minnesota is also an outside shot if Swanson doesn't run for reelection, but if she doesn't I still think Democrats are favored to hold it.

This. If anything, GOP has some exposed seats. NV and MI, for starters, and maybe a few scattered ones here and there.
Nevada I think falls, especially with Laxalt likely to run for Governor. Michigan, Schuette is termed out, I think Tonya Schuitmaker holds it for Republicans but she'll have to work for reelection, unless Democrats punt to go all in on the governor race (kind of like what happened in 2014 IIRC), but there are some potential governor candidates who are lawyers and could drop down to that race. Ohio could be at risk potentially but Dave Yost is a strong candidate and Democrats will likely go after other row offices.

In 2019, Jim Hood (MS) and Andy Beshear (KY) are up. Let's see if either of them run for reelection, or run for governor.

I actually think Diettelbach has a pretty decent chance of picking up the AG office for the Democrats if 2018 is a Democratic year.  Yost is a far weaker candidate than he appears on paper and Diettelbach is already running one hell of an energetic campaign.
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2017, 08:21:50 PM »

Which states do Democrats even still have elected AG's in that are up in 2018?  Probably not too many states where Republicans can win.
Iowa is the big one. If he runs for reelection he'd be favored, but if not the GOP is free to pick it up. Minnesota is also an outside shot if Swanson doesn't run for reelection, but if she doesn't I still think Democrats are favored to hold it.

This. If anything, GOP has some exposed seats. NV and MI, for starters, and maybe a few scattered ones here and there.
Nevada I think falls, especially with Laxalt likely to run for Governor. Michigan, Schuette is termed out, I think Tonya Schuitmaker holds it for Republicans but she'll have to work for reelection, unless Democrats punt to go all in on the governor race (kind of like what happened in 2014 IIRC), but there are some potential governor candidates who are lawyers and could drop down to that race. Ohio could be at risk potentially but Dave Yost is a strong candidate and Democrats will likely go after other row offices.

In 2019, Jim Hood (MS) and Andy Beshear (KY) are up. Let's see if either of them run for reelection, or run for governor.

I actually think Diettelbach has a pretty decent chance of picking up the AG office for the Democrats if 2018 is a Democratic year.  Yost is a far weaker candidate than he appears on paper and Diettelbach is already running one hell of an energetic campaign.

It doesn't look like he's said anything on the race since January. He doesn't have a website or anything.

Just reporting back what I've been hearing down here in Ohio Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2017, 09:19:45 PM »

Which states do Democrats even still have elected AG's in that are up in 2018?  Probably not too many states where Republicans can win.
Iowa is the big one. If he runs for reelection he'd be favored, but if not the GOP is free to pick it up. Minnesota is also an outside shot if Swanson doesn't run for reelection, but if she doesn't I still think Democrats are favored to hold it.

This. If anything, GOP has some exposed seats. NV and MI, for starters, and maybe a few scattered ones here and there.
Nevada I think falls, especially with Laxalt likely to run for Governor. Michigan, Schuette is termed out, I think Tonya Schuitmaker holds it for Republicans but she'll have to work for reelection, unless Democrats punt to go all in on the governor race (kind of like what happened in 2014 IIRC), but there are some potential governor candidates who are lawyers and could drop down to that race. Ohio could be at risk potentially but Dave Yost is a strong candidate and Democrats will likely go after other row offices.

In 2019, Jim Hood (MS) and Andy Beshear (KY) are up. Let's see if either of them run for reelection, or run for governor.

I actually think Diettelbach has a pretty decent chance of picking up the AG office for the Democrats if 2018 is a Democratic year.  Yost is a far weaker candidate than he appears on paper and Diettelbach is already running one hell of an energetic campaign.
No one knows who Dettelbach is, or even how to spell his name, he's got an uphill climb. I actually think he'd be better if he went after Joyce and Schiavoni went for AG
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2017, 10:28:48 PM »

Good. Such an agreement is silly anyway. We need attorney generals in every state that enforce laws like federal drug laws and immigration law.
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2017, 11:47:45 PM »

Good. Such an agreement is silly anyway. We need attorney generals in every state that enforce laws like federal drug laws and immigration law.

Voting & civil rights too.
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2017, 12:37:43 PM »

Good.  None of these agreements should exist.  I should have a meaningful choice in every election, whether it be in a D+30 Congressional seat, Attorney General, or the most local of local elections.   All these agreements do is stop me from having a choice in elections, forcing me to vote for a Democrat, write someone in, or not vote in that all. 

The cross-endorsing of judicial candidates in New York is the worst example of it.
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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2017, 12:40:34 PM »

Good.  None of these agreements should exist.  I should have a meaningful choice in every election, whether it be in a D+30 Congressional seat, Attorney General, or the most local of local elections.   All these agreements do is stop me from having a choice in elections, forcing me to vote for a Democrat, write someone in, or not vote in that all.  

The cross-endorsing of judicial candidates in New York is the worst example of it.

Personally, I didn't even know such an agreement existed. My problem with this was the timing/possible logic of such a move, of which I outlined in my first post.
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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2017, 01:04:07 PM »

Yay! I was going to be sad if Herring wasn't dramatically out fundraised and spent.
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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2017, 09:21:32 PM »

The article does state why the rules existed and it's because of cooperation across state lines. Attorneys General have to deal with issues that require out of state cooperation more than any other statewide elected office and it's wise not to cause rifts that could destabilize that.
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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2017, 10:08:52 PM »

The GOP couldn't even field a candidate against the Attorney General in Washington last year.
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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2017, 09:08:18 PM »

Good.  None of these agreements should exist.  I should have a meaningful choice in every election, whether it be in a D+30 Congressional seat, Attorney General, or the most local of local elections.   All these agreements do is stop me from having a choice in elections, forcing me to vote for a Democrat, write someone in, or not vote in that all. 

The cross-endorsing of judicial candidates in New York is the worst example of it.

It's patronage for lawyers.  Of course, "Supreme Court" judges in NY are just local judges, a step up from County Court Judges; it's NY's Court of Appeals that's the big deal, and I believe they are appointed.
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