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« on: March 29, 2017, 11:36:41 AM »
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Announcing Friday.
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2017, 12:00:34 PM »

Likely R, of course. The primary to replace him ought to be interesting
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2017, 12:09:55 PM »

He's probably the strongest Democratic challenger fwiw.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2017, 12:13:10 PM »

Go, go, Beto, O.!
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2017, 12:16:52 PM »

Solid. I like O'Rourke.

Hot Take: Texas is more likely to flip than Michigan.
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2017, 01:03:27 PM »

He's probably the strongest Democratic challenger fwiw.

Of the people who will actually run, yes.
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2017, 01:20:35 PM »

The primary in TX-16 should get interesting. Joe Moody would make a good Congressman but Is be shocked if we don't get a Hispanic RGV machine Dem
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2017, 01:28:47 PM »

Likely R. Cruz is very unlikely to lose, though I could see his margin getting reduced to something like Trump's.
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2017, 01:53:57 PM »

The only reason I'm hesitating to rate this Safe R is because Trump is a moron and Cruz doesn't have much crossover appeal (unlike Abbott). I think this will basically be a CA-SEN 2010 redux, though.
Probably, although Cruz is about on par with Fiorina in the campaigning department.
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2017, 02:59:07 PM »

The only reason I'm hesitating to rate this Safe R is because Trump is a moron and Cruz doesn't have much crossover appeal (unlike Abbott). I think this will basically be a CA-SEN 2010 redux, though.
Probably, although Cruz is about on par with Fiorina in the campaigning department.
Bad campaigners tend to win these days anyway. Case in point, the Trump/Clinton/Johnson/Stein race.
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2017, 03:06:08 PM »

Yeah, I could see O'Rourke hold Cruz to low single digits and lay the groundwork for future Democratic races in this state, but it's really hard to see him winning.

He's probably the strongest Democratic challenger fwiw.

Of the people who will actually run, yes.

The Castro brothers are massively overrated. The best Democratic challenger here is either O'Rourke or someone non-obvious from outside politics.
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2017, 03:11:14 PM »

I would be happy if he could lose by less than 10 points.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2017, 03:48:06 PM »

Anyway, I agree with those calling it Likely R. I wouldn't be shocked if it's clearly Safe R by election day though.
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2017, 03:50:17 PM »

This is good.
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2017, 03:50:22 PM »

Good on him for actually sticking to his three-term limit, unlike most Republicans who make the same pledge.
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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2017, 04:00:28 PM »

Good on him for actually sticking to his three-term limit, unlike most Republicans who make the same pledge.
While you are right that every single Republican politician who talks about term limits breaks their promise, how is moving up to a higher office whose term is as long as his entire Congressional career to this point keeping a promise?
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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2017, 04:08:48 PM »

Well, I guess you can't catch a wave without a surfboard. Still hard to see him doing better than a 5-6% loss, though.
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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2017, 04:11:27 PM »

He doesn't strike me as the kind of Democrat that usually wins in a red state, but still might be able to at least give Cruz a run for his money.

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If term limits actually existed for the House, they wouldn't prevent a Rep from running for Senate or any other office afterward.

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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2017, 04:43:22 PM »

Yeah, I could see O'Rourke hold Cruz to low single digits and lay the groundwork for future Democratic races in this state, but it's really hard to see him winning.

He's probably the strongest Democratic challenger fwiw.

Of the people who will actually run, yes.

The Castro brothers are massively overrated. The best Democratic challenger here is either O'Rourke or someone non-obvious from outside politics.
Joaquin seems underrated, if anything.
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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2017, 04:56:06 PM »

Good on him for actually sticking to his three-term limit, unlike most Republicans who make the same pledge.
While you are right that every single Republican politician who talks about term limits breaks their promise, how is moving up to a higher office whose term is as long as his entire Congressional career to this point keeping a promise?
Because it specifically applies to the House, the pledge doesn't mention the Senate at all.
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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2017, 05:12:38 PM »

Good on him for actually sticking to his three-term limit, unlike most Republicans who make the same pledge.

I found the fact that he made that pledge very odd to begin with, since it was stereotypically something that post-1994 "grassroots conservative" Republicans do.
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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2017, 06:04:18 PM »

Ivy Taylor is another example of an underrated Texas Democratic politician who might play well statewide, actually. Though, again, 2018 is too early for an actual win, I think.
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2017, 06:41:17 PM »

Reminder that O'Rourke got into Congress by running on marijuana legalization.
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2017, 07:14:39 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2017, 07:36:15 PM »

Yeah, I could see O'Rourke hold Cruz to low single digits and lay the groundwork for future Democratic races in this state, but it's really hard to see him winning.

He's probably the strongest Democratic challenger fwiw.

Of the people who will actually run, yes.

The Castro brothers are massively overrated. The best Democratic challenger here is either O'Rourke or someone non-obvious from outside politics.

Completely agree and I just can't understand why Julian Castro (his brother Joaquin does seem more compelling as a candidate) gets so much hype around here.  Someone who fits a "random guy from the middle of nowhere" or "random rich businessman/woman" profile is generally the best option for statewide office in a state that leans strongly to the other party.  A former cabinet official for the last president of the locally disfavored party is just about the worst possible option!

I think the very, very best they could do would be Mark Cuban. He would probably run as an Indie, but with the tacit endorsement of a majority of Texas Dems.

At any rate, I think this will almost surely be within 10 but will also almost surely be a Cruz win.  If Cruz gets successfully primaried by someone close to Trump, though...
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